If you love fish then why do you eat them?
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August 28, 2018 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #1581156HaimyParticipant
As Dr. Twersky says, if you really loved fish you wouldn’t eat them. You love yourself, you love how fish makes you feel. Same for MBD & Shulem Lemmer, you don’t know or love either of them, you love how you feel listening to them.August 28, 2018 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #1581532ChadGadyaParticipant
Of course with fish “love” is just a figure of speech. But if another human being, especially a yid, makes me feel good and happy through their music, surely some of that gratitude and appreciation can manifest itself as love. An amplification of the veahavta lereacha kamocha that we should be feeling anyways towards every yid.August 28, 2018 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1581230
ויאהב יצחק את עשו כי ציד בפיו ורבקה אהבת את יעקב the Meforshim explain that this was the difference between Yitzchok and Rivka. Yitzcok loved Aisov because he hunted for his mouth, realing loving himself, but Rivka loved Yaakov without self interest.August 28, 2018 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #1581668
” Yitzcok loved Aisov because he hunted for his mouth, realing loving himself, ”
And yet the Passuk says “ויאהב יצחק את עשו” showing that like in English to Love something doesn’t necessarily exclude self interest.
IAugust 28, 2018 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #1582126☕️coffee addictParticipant
I love fish and the reason I eat it is so that I become one with the fishAugust 28, 2018 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #1582421
ubiquitin, maybe there is a difference between the two expressions of love. By Yitzchok the love was for the duration as Aisov provided for him, but Rivka’s love was constant.August 28, 2018 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #1582422
The above explanation is as it says in Pirkei Avos 5 אהבה שתלוי’ בדבר that the love that is dependent on something only lasts as long that something is provided.August 28, 2018 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #1582444MilhouseParticipant
The paradox is not real; it’s an artifact of the fact that the English word “love” has two distinct meanings, and the paradox is actually a play on words, using the word in one sense in the first half and the other in the second half. In Yiddish the question doesn’t make sense, because there are two separate words for these two senses. The kind of love one has for people is called ליב-האבן; the kind one has for food that one likes to eat is האלט-האבן. In Yiddish one does not say איך האב פיש ליב, but rather איך האב פיש האלט.August 28, 2018 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1582464
You can make up all the distinctions you want. The bottom line is Yitzchak’s “Love” for Eisav is called “Love”
I’m not disputing that the reason, or type of love between ויאהב יצחק את עשו ; and ויאהב יעקוב את-רחל are different.
I’m just pointing out that whether תלוי’ בדבר or not, or whether you actually “love how it makes you feel” or not that is still called Love, in lashon hakodeshAugust 28, 2018 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1582467Doing my bestParticipant
Why do people say they love babies so much that they want to eat them?
does it mean they’re cannibals and they don’t like the baby?August 28, 2018 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1582454
Milhouse, Ich gleich גלייך fish is what I say, I don’t know what you are saying.August 28, 2018 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #1582459
In English we say, I like fish rather than I love fish.August 29, 2018 1:59 am at 1:59 am #1582621👑RebYidd23Participant
So people who truly love MBD and Shulem Lemmer don’t like their music?August 31, 2018 8:05 am at 8:05 am #1584062ParticipantParticipant
I love myself and want to eat MBD’s music. Sorry for bragging.August 31, 2018 10:19 am at 10:19 am #1584112yehudayonaParticipant
On the Aish website there’s an excellent video called “Fish Love.”September 4, 2018 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #1587244WolfishMusingsParticipant
“Love” can have more than one meaning.
Or do you think the second amendment to the constitution is about going sleeveless?
The WolfSeptember 5, 2018 10:05 am at 10:05 am #1587387
It doesnt say “bare arms”
Though I did see a cartoon of a founding father holding up of pair of bear’s arms (as in an animal’s arms) and saying everyone has a right to these , please make that clearSeptember 5, 2018 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1587673👑RebYidd23Participant
If you accept the definition of love as a deep emotional commitment to another person and desire to promote that person’s well being, love for a fish would make you pay its veterinary bills, not eat it. But if you love a singer, people listening to their music is typically what they want, so you would probably hear more of someone’s music the more you genuinely loved them.January 15, 2020 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #1823322JzqParticipant
I do love fish I love it so much that I want to make a part of meJanuary 16, 2020 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1823459banjobobParticipant
*it means we can do whatever we want with them (obviously not making them suffer) but that includes eating themJanuary 16, 2020 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1823458banjobobParticipant
If you love a fish so much that you don’t eat it you may as well marry it. They were created to serve humans (like every animal) and that means we eat themJanuary 17, 2020 12:56 am at 12:56 am #1823687JzqParticipant
Fish live matter 🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋
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