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  • #1115532

    just my hapence
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    Where do witches and wizards learn maths?

    #1115533

    Toi
    Participant

    in school. brickhead.

    #1115534

    just my hapence
    Participant

    In the HP universe (which is what was being discussed…) they don’t appear to have any formal education before the age of 11 and all the subjects they learn in Hogwarts seem to assume knowledge of basic maths etc. Hence the question. And the insult was appreciated, thanks.

    #1115535

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    Some of them go to muggle primary school, although most are homeschooled.

    #1115536

    just my hapence
    Participant

    Gamanit – mekor? The muggle-borns definitely go to muggle schools, but the rest?

    #1115537

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    Interview with J.K.R. that’s what she answered to the question as to which primary school wizard children go to…

    #1115538

    Luna Lovegood
    Participant

    just my hapence – In hogwarts they learn Arithmancy which is similar to math as well as Alchemy,Herbology and Astronomy which are sciences.

    Maybe it is considered common knowledge or it is assumed that they learn basic math (1+2, 6/3) and stuff like that home before turning 11.

    #1115539

    just my hapence
    Participant

    Gamanit – Ta! Do you know when this interview was and who it was with?

    Luna – Aderaba, Arithmancy assumes prior knowledge of maths, is optional and only at a higher level, in other words NOT the ‘magic equivalent’ of maths.

    #1115540

    fkelly
    Member

    Agree with just my hapence- Hermione says the Arithmancy is the hardest exam.

    #1115541

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    JK Rowling World Book Day Chat

    4/4/2004

    kai: Where do wizarding children go to school before Hogwarts?

    JK Rowling replies -> They can either go to a Muggle primary school or they are educated at home. The Weasleys were taught by Mrs. Weasley.

    #1115542

    BYbychoice
    Member

    wow reading this thread makes me feel like i finally found a home, heimish and yideshe people with a great taste in books!

    #1115543

    Chortkov
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    Why did Dumbledore not let Harry disarm Draco Malfoy, confund him/ use a memory charm to let Malfoy think he actually killed Dumbledore, and then hide, while still controlling the Order of the Phoenix? Why did he need to die? (Snape could have saved him from the potion)

    #1115544

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    He was dying anyhow- not from the potion, but from the ring. A year previously Snape slowed the curse, but told him he has around a year left to live. That’s when Dumbledore arranged with Snape that Snape should kill him first, and so “prove” his loyalty with the Dark Lord, which everyone was suspicious over.

    #1115545

    Luna Lovegood
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    yekke – The elder wand was in Dumbledore’s possession and when Draco disarmed him the wand’s allegiance switched to Draco (without him knowing). Then Snape killed Dumbledore to cement his allegiance to Voldemort and Dumbledore was buried with his wand(really Draco’s) that Voldemort would later steal. Meanwhile, while Harry is on the run he ends up in Malfoy Manor and duels Draco, successfully disarming him causing the elder wand(currently in Dumbledore’s tomb) to become loyal to him. Then when Harry and Voldemort are dueling the elder wand(in Voldemort’s possession) will not kill Harry as it is loyal to him. The spell backfires killing Voldemort and so ends the final battle. It was a clever plot device use by JK to ensure Harry would win the fight without having to actually murder anyone. As for Dumbledore dying, it was to symbolize the end of Harry’s time at Hogwarts and the start of the final battle against Voldemort and the death eaters.

    #1115546

    sammy16
    Member

    Did this ever bother you? You cant go back in time to save harrys parents but you can go back in time to save a stupid bird Buckbeak and sirius from the dementors. Why couldnt you go back in time and save sirius again after he was killed later on? i have more questions on this series but this one bothers me the most!

    #1115547

    just my hapence
    Participant

    sammy16 – They could save Buckbeak because they had already done so. That is, they could go back in time because back in time they had already gone back in time. They never did so with Harry’s parents or Sirius. It is a bit circular and paradoxical but that is how it’s explained in POA (Harry can do the patronus to save his past self because when he was his past self he saw his future self doing it). It’s a narrative device, that’s all….

    #1115548

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    You can’t go back in time to change the past, only to be mekayeim what already happened. Everything that happens after they go back in time already happened the “first time around”.

    Hermione couldn’t go back to charms once she missed class because she missed it – it didn’t happen the first time so therefore never happened and never can.

    #1115549

    Chortkov
    Participant

    just my hapence – They had already done so only because they did go back in time. If they would go back in time, they would have had to have saved Harry’s parents.

    They only saved Buckbeack because they in the future went back in time, which is obviously the Time Paradox. The only reason why they didn’t save Harry’s parents, Dumbledore and everyone else in the past was because they didn’t decide to. If they would have decided to then automatically they would have in tha past.

    Makes no sense. Sort of like “???? ?????? ?????” in R’ Chaim. Oh well.

    #1115550

    sammy16
    Member

    Idk kinda hard to understand

    #1115551

    sammy16
    Member

    I think eragon kicks Harry potter anyday

    #1115552

    shnitzy
    Member

    They are totally different styles. They can’t kick each other.

    Given, Eragon is less juvenile, not necessarily a good/bad thing.

    #1115553

    sammy16
    Member

    i meant in fatansy reading eragon is a better book in my opinion

    #1115554

    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    (Harry can do the patronus to save his past self because when he was his past self he saw his future self doing it).

    I don’t know about that . . .

    #1115555

    shnitzy
    Member

    It makes sense. Ciiiiiiiiircle of life….

    #1115556

    BYbychoice
    Member

    I think both harry potter and earagon are good books,they just have diffrent types of writers and depth to them,but if you like one you would prob like the other

    #1115557

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    When Dumbledore told them to go back in time, he already knew that Buckbeak and Sirius had escaped. He realized what must have happened and therefore was able to tell Hermione what to do. Nothing changed. They were just in 2 places at once as everything was happening.

    #1115558

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Eragon and HP are my 2 favorite series – not sure witch is better, different styles. Though I’m currently leaning toward Eragon – better character and world development. The magic system in Eragon makes more sense.

    #1115559

    Chortkov
    Participant

    Can somebody give a brief summary of this Eragon series? And who wrote it?

    #1115560

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    So much bad taste on this thread, tsk tsk. LOTR and Discworld are the only two fantasy series. Neil Gaiman can get honorary mention.

    #1115561

    Luna Lovegood
    Participant

    While Eragon and HP are both amazing fantasy series they can’t really be compared because they are both very different in their essence. Paolini created an entirely new world with a few parallels to our own while JK fit magic into our everyday world.

    #1115562

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    The underlying “physics” behind the magic is much better explained and makes more sense in Eragon. The way it works in HP leads to too many stiras/kashas onpf why couldn’t they just do such-and-such.

    #1115563

    shnitzy
    Member

    Because in Eragon, much of the plot revolves around the magic itself. It needs such in-depth development. JKR focusses much more in weaving in complex theming, brought about through the development of relationships.

    #1115564

    Chortkov
    Participant

    What is Eragon?

    #1115565

    shnitzy
    Member

    Google it. You’ll find a pretty comprehensive summary.

    #1115566

    sammy16
    Member

    Eragon is written by Christopher paolini he started the first book when he was 17.

    #1115567

    Yserbius123
    Participant

    Eragon was a fun series of books but I wouldn’t compare it to HP. It used too many cliches and followed the standard “Hero’s Quest” of fantasy books a little too closely. Also, a big chunk of books 2 and 3 were dead boring.

    #1115568

    shnitzy
    Member

    Ahem, he was actually 15 at the time.

    #1115569

    sammy16
    Member

    True.

    #1115570

    aproudbyg
    Participant

    lotr is a great series and so is the prequel! but eragon does have to win against HP just for the fact that each book and page really holds the readers interest while HP does have some really boring books let alone pages,i could barely get through 1 and 2!

    #1115571

    sammy16
    Member

    Less of a wait for eragon also. Do u know if paolini is comin out with anything new?

    #1115572

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    Does Eragon have jokes like HP or is it more adventure? I love the sense of humor in the HP books…

    #1115573

    shnitzy
    Member

    more adventure

    #1115574

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Of course Eragon has jokes – Angela is hilarious.

    Speaking of witch – let’s give Eragon characters to CR posters:

    OneOfMany is Angela

    Squeak is King Orrin

    popa_bar_abba is Tenga

    Health is Gertrude

    #1115575

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    Haven’t read it, but yay I get to be the funny one. ^_^

    #1115576

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Bump (in honor of our new member)

    #1115577

    Well seeing as it has been bumped… Eragon is too wordy!!! The third and fourth books could have been chopped down by a lot. Also, Angela should have been in there more. Just saying.

    And not seeing how Health is Gertrude. At all.

    Let’s get back to Harry Potter!

    😀

    #1115578

    Shopping613 🌠
    Participant

    Whom would I be in HP?

    #1115579

    live right
    Member

    shopping613: Lavender Brown

    #1115582

    live right- i see why you would say that, but somehow it just seem right. i’m going to think this over… 😀

    #1115583

    streekgeek
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    I have a different idea but the mods don’t approve. Oh well!

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