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    Should Jews still be investing in America, when democrats are turning it into a zoo? How long do we havs til we have to move to Eretz Yisroel? Should one buy a house in America or rent in America and buy in Eretz Yisroel?

    Little Froggie

    Four houses and then a hotel.

    catch yourself

    Little Froggie +1
    Although, if you’re playing Bavli, the rules are different…


    LOL it is Trump who is destroying the US. Over 120,000 dead from a pandemic and all he retweets white supremacists!


    CH: Trump is not destroying the US. Nancy, crying Chuck and other democratic leaders are worse than Trump.


    They are some of the main reasons for Term Limits for Senators and Congresspeople. We cant rely on voters in their states or congrssional districts not vote them in.


    charlie – I always had a lot of respect for you and valued your comments and posts. Recently tho, I am floored at how uninformed and unintelligent your posting has become.

    No matter how you feel about trump and all he does, just stick to the facts. You are too intelligent to start blaming a pandemic and 120,000 deaths on him. Someone of your caliber who understands how chaotic the first months of this virus were, how uninformed the doctors were, how many fatal mistakes they made, how much out of anyones hands it is to force people to stick to the rules… oh please. No matter what he could have done or not done, it is beneath you to pretend that we could have stopped this virus, or more recently that the democratic party allowing for, joining and condoning outdoor rallies had nothing to do with the spin out of this pandemic. Those of us who played by the rules virtually gave up when we saw that the mayors were hypocrits and liars, assuming that if they are lying about this, perhaps they are lying about all of the precautions. And that impact on the genreal public was something that could have been prevented.

    Acting like a monday morning quarterback and pretending you don’t understand the science of a pandemic, specifically this pandemic, just makes me wonder if you have had a break down ch”v, or if I just never knew enough about your topics to have caught on earlier.

    Someone in Monsey

    Buying land or property in Israel is the single best long-term investment in the world. Should you buy property in America? Probably, if it’s appropriate in your life. Some traditional higher-end markets may be in for a rough ride, however, like California and New York. Their tax bases are shrinking, which will spur tax increases, and the push to defund police departments will certainly degrade quality of life and thus property values.


    Oh Charlie,
    “LOL it is Trump who is destroying the US. Over 120,000 dead from a pandemic”

    It’s Futile to argue with your point, because of your Dislike – THAT you have about Republicans.

    But I’ll respond like THIS:
    He’s trying to catch up with the number of Homocides in the US.
    From 2008-2018 there were over 180 thousand in the US.
    These occur mainly in the Inner Cities run by DemonCrats!


    Does anyone still want to buy houses in NYC?


    charlie โ€“ I always had a lot of respect for you and valued your comments and posts. Recently tho, I am floored at how uninformed and unintelligent your posting has become.โ€œ


    As I said in a different thread it doesnโ€™t make sense how a professor can talk like that

    I wouldnโ€™t be surprised if his grandson hi jacked his account


    @1- just FYI, nope, no one is really buying i NYC anymore. Real estate there is unimaginably (or i guess it is imaginable) low.


    CA -“As I said in a different thread it doesnโ€™t make sense how a professor can talk like that”

    It makes sense in our Generation!
    The more Liberal you are, the more Respect you get from the adminstration of the college/university that you work for.


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    I do not get the ‘it is not Trump’s fault’ slogan. This is what he was elected for. To be a different way of doing things. Nobody thought in 2016 that he would be capable of bringing together the country in the face of a major crisis. And in 2020 he showed almost zero interest in becoming that kind of leader. The USA being hit harder than any other country, is entirely because of a lack of federal initiative. Which is a hallmark of this Presidency. [I have no problem if you voted for him because he would do things his way. Just admit that he is not the guy to handle a major crises. Someone else could have handled the pandemic. Nobody in The White House stepped up.]

    To say it is not his fault, is like saying an evil murderer is not at fault because he is evil. Trump realizes and utilizes his strengths very well. He does not compensate or acknowledge his shortcomings. [This was known about him when he was a serious candidate of the reform party.] i do not care for Mr. Biden. The number one issue is not who wins the election. It is when will we stop this pandemic. America’s (financial) future hinges on it. The rest of the world stands in disbelief.


    “I do not get the โ€˜it is not Trumpโ€™s faultโ€™ slogan.”

    I do not get the ‘im well versed in pandemics and have analyzed all the information that was available from WHO and the CDC so i can confidently declare who is to blame for the spread of this virus and number of deaths” slogan

    The rest of the post is just too hard to respond to specifically. It just makes no sense overall.


    nOmesorah -”It is when will we stop this pandemic. Americaโ€™s (financial) future hinges on it.”

    There are many Cures, but the regulations that were created here in the US, no one wants to develop it here. I have One and I’m looking into China to make it.
    The US is about to Implode & it’s the LIBERAL’s Fault!



    Iโ€™m not commenting that n the fact that Charlie is a liberal, I understand that


    I object to the OP’s premise about ‘investing in America’
    How long before we have to move to EY
    Should we rent in USA and buy in EY………………………………

    I don’t consider buy a piece of property as investing in a country. You are investing in the real estate. Governments come and go, the land remains forever.
    To quote a currently controversial piece of American culture, Gone With The Wind:
    “Why, land is the only thing in the world worth workin’ for, worth fightin’ for, worth dyin’ for, because it’s the only thing that lasts.โ€

    My investment in America is my participation in elections and politics. It is not my purchases and holdings of real estate (which I have in multiple countries).

    The investment in a home for your family (as opposed to continuing to pay rent), is generally an investment in your family and its future security. No longer at the mercy of landlords and rent increases, etc.
    That is the same no matter where in the world you live.


    If you buy a house somewhere you usually hope it’s going to be safe for a while and that the value of your home won’t go down. It’s not a direct investment in America but you’re putting your hopes in it. How many Jews in Germany had their homes seized? Throughout the Diaspora, when jews had to run out of a country many had to sell their valuables for a pittance. Now with democrats making cities like new york city, chicago, and Los Angeles less safe, how long do jew have left in America? Jews can move to places that don’t want to destroy the police, but you’d have to set up yeshivas and shuls – it would take a big effort.


    From a purely financial return perspective purchasing Israeli bonds are a much better “investment” than U.S. Savings Bonds. From the perspective of yidden, its a no-brainer.

    Ben Levi

    There are several facts not being reported at all.

    In President Trumps speech at Mt Rushmore on the 4th he specifically call for a country where each and every American has the same opportunities regardless of color, creed, or religion.

    This was not a throw away line but a central part of his speech.

    If you do not believe me you can look up the actual speech and listen to it.
    Throughout his Presidency he has made it a point of reaching out to the African-American community in ways no Republican has done before.

    He has acknowledged the atrocious living conditions of many African-American communities and has called it a disgrace to America, he has done this at the most high profile events possible.
    His inauguration and State of the Union.

    He has addressed the high incarceration rates of the African American community by backing a Criminal Justice billed aimed at reducing them.

    He has tried to further educational opportunities by increasing funding to historically black colleges to unprecedented heights.

    He has partnered with Sen. Tim Scott to increase opportunity zones in order to increase Black employment.

    Pres. Trump has a multi-year record of speaking out for the African-American community and actually delivering them.

    And he has shown results.

    Before the Pandemic hit black unemployment was at historic lows and the so-called inequality gap was actually closing.

    So that begs the question.
    Why do Mainstream Media figures assist the Democratic party in deliberately twisting what he says.

    Why Do Mainstream Media figures assist the Democratic party in dividing the nation by deliberately avoiding
    the fact that the Republican President has reached out to the black community in unprecedented ways.

    Why do they continue to ignore his record?

    I suspect that the reason is that they saw his poll numbers were up in the black community, they saw that he was beginning to make inroads, they saw that he was actually delivering for them.

    And if they lose them they lose all power and they value Power above all else.

    So they deliberately must do all they could to lie about Pres. Trump and portray him as a racist in order to maintain their power and if the country suffers as a result?

    Well they have never much cared about the country.


    @Ben Levi
    Your comment has NOTHING to do t=with this thread’s topic………………
    Did you post in the wrong place?
    Maybe you should copy and paste and use it to start a new thread about Trump, Blacks and the media


    ha ha! I was just thinking how well Ben Levi aticulated those points that nobody wants to hear or acknowledge and what happens? It gets cancelled! >_<

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