March 15, 2012 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #602510yoyaMember
I have been thinking for awhile now that I really want to get an iPHone. However I am concerned that I will get addicted to it and waste time. But I really want one. Today I actually walked into a Verizon store and then walked out still unsure. Is something wrong with me? Any ideas from people who have smartphones? How addicting are they?March 15, 2012 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #1144504yentingyentaParticipant
if you want a toy, get the iphone.
if you need a business tool, get the BB
if you want 1/2 n 1/2, get a droid
(just my opinions)March 15, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #1144505
blackberry is awful…iphone is worse. android is the best of both.March 15, 2012 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1144506Doodle-Man™Member
if you get an iphone you can get a lot of jewish apps so you dont have to waste timeMarch 16, 2012 2:18 am at 2:18 am #1144507ED IT ORParticipant
get a kosher phone, than you won’t waste any time. All smartphone s are ADDICTIVE and you spend a lot of time just faffing around!
sent from my iPhoneMarch 16, 2012 2:23 am at 2:23 am #1144508moreMember
Brings color to the CR!
if you get an iphone you can get a lot of jewish apps so you dont have to waste time
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can you give some ideas?? what sorta apps? I’ve got kol haloshon, davening -(chol;), bentching without retzei, tefilas haderech, what else would you recomend?March 16, 2012 3:19 am at 3:19 am #1144509agentemesParticipant
there a gemara mishnios chumash Rambam Torah Notebook and NaviMarch 16, 2012 3:19 am at 3:19 am #1144510agentemesParticipant
and even a Mishna Berura and Noam ElimelechMarch 16, 2012 5:11 am at 5:11 am #1144511groMember
From a Jewish point of view.
With a bb or an Android you can have some sort of Web filter.
on an Iphone you can’t because any filter only filters their own browser
As far as which phone to get
I had alt of bb I hated all of them
I have an Android love it
I have an iPod and have played with slit of IPhones when I was switching away from bb to see if I should iPhone and I wasn’t so impressed for someone who is tech savvy. if you want simple than iPhone is the way to go
But Android is my choice love my AndroidMarch 16, 2012 5:20 am at 5:20 am #1144512
actually your post is completely backwards. google doesnt allow apps which interfere with other apps or services to run at all. the iphone allows you to set parental guidelines on your phone, or lock the browser entirely, which would then allow you to install a browser that would double as a web filter. blackberry is so awful youd have to be nuts to browse on it anyway.March 16, 2012 5:43 am at 5:43 am #1144513mamashtakahMember
An iPhone is no different than anything else in life. Use a bit of self-control and you won’t be addicted. Really, is this such a difficult concept for an adult? (Thinking of another thread where someone complained about eating a ton of food at a shule kiddish, then not being hungry for the meal when he got home. Same concept here and there.)March 16, 2012 10:36 am at 10:36 am #1144514uneeqMember
gro- when I was switching away from bb to see if I should iPhone and I wasn’t so impressed for someone who is tech savvy.
Tech savvy? And you still prefer BB over an iPhone? The last time I checked the only feature on a BB phone is BBM (however pointless it is). Everything else is completely horrible. Installing an app takes forever, including multiple resets which each take about ten minutes. Deleting an app also requires a reset. The browser reminds me of the internet in the 90’s. Last time I checked, their app store has less than 1/100th of the apps on android and iPhone. The phones are slow. Taking out the battery is often necessary multiple times a day. Horrible UI. The list goes on and on and on…March 16, 2012 10:41 am at 10:41 am #1144515ToiParticipant
If you want a normal family life, if you want your kids to feel loved, if you want to speak to people you care about instead of texting them four words a month, dont get a toy. get a phone.March 16, 2012 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #1144516
tech savvy and you would use either over an android?! seriously?!March 17, 2012 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #1144517uneeqMember
soliek: I assume you are talking to me. I use an android, but I do think the iPhone is better. Packing in features do not make a phone great. The software is what does the trick. And I would never, ever use a BB. Bitul Zman (restarting it multiple times a day and it’s slowness) and Bal Tachshis (not worth a penny to me)March 18, 2012 2:38 am at 2:38 am #1144518
“Packing in features do not make a phone great. The software is what does the trick”
which is precisely why you should prefer androidMarch 18, 2012 2:39 am at 2:39 am #1144519erm_saywhatMember
As the developer of the YWN Radio app I’m biased, but here’s my honest opinion.
BlackBerry was great in its day. Mobile email, some form of internet browsing, productivity at its best. Unfortunately, their hardware is now subpar and their experience is sluggish and choppy. Stay away from BB if you value your time and money.
Android is a marriage of iPhone and BlackBerry. It has a developer community, unlike BlackBerry, so it has some apps, but the experience is inconsistent from app to app. Hebrew support is poor. Android updates are always going to fix things in the future, but never now. Google keeps promising things in “the next release”. Avoid avoid avoid.
Apple pushed mobile apps (which Palm, alav hashalom, actually pioneered) to the fore of societal consciousness. Being that they brought the state of mobile computing to the layman in the way that they did, it’s a wise move to use their platform.
As for the “a word”, if you believe in technology addiction as its own entity, you’re too dumb to own a smartphone. It’s a symptom of human nature. We, as humans, crave social interaction, which the internet facilitates in unprecedented ways. Hence the seeming “addiction”. It’s natural. Hashem created us like that.
Whatever decision you make, use your smartphone for good things in good health. Kol Tuv.
Also, if you’re looking for a viable alternative to iPhone, consider a Windows Phone. I’ve used it too and I can confidently say that it’s a solid phone. It has apps. It has a “get in get out” design. It’s what BlackBerry should be. Windows Phone 7 is nearly as good, if not just as good as iPhone.
Shavua Tov, Kol Tuv.March 18, 2012 2:50 am at 2:50 am #1144520
as opposed to iphone which has bugs and rather than releasing fixes, creates a completely new OS with new bugs and a new phone with new hardware to accompany it?March 18, 2012 3:26 am at 3:26 am #11445212scentsParticipant
If you are concerned that you will get addidcted, you have a very valid concern.
I never owned an iPhone, however I had a BB and Android.
The BB was a great business tool (which is really what i needed in addition to the calling capabilities).
After reading some ‘great’ reviews on the Android, I purchased one.
I hated it, as it is a great toy, with a browser on the go. however it really lacked a robust email structure, like BB has.
Currently, to avoid I have an Ipad, with a regular phone. like this, I avoid the addiction, as I dont carry the iPad on my belt.
however I have instant access to a browser and my emails (there is almost no start up time on the iPad).March 18, 2012 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1144522writersoulParticipant
My dad was forced to get a BlackBerry for work and he hates it with all his heart and soul.
My mom had a Droid X and it had a lot of glitches. She liked it but it kept on breaking down on her (and she did switch phones, she didn’t use the same one the whole time). Also, my dad has an iPod Touch and she couldn’t use the same apps as him. Then she got an iPhone 4S and she’s in heaven.
2scents: that’s what my dad does. He has an iPad and a regular old (and yes I mean old) phone. And an iPod Touch but it’s kinda broken. He says he doesn’t want to put all his eggs in one basket. (I don’t count the BlackBerry because he doesn’t use it unless he absolutely has to.)
Personally I’d take any of them :).March 18, 2012 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #1144523brotherofursParticipant
yoya- i feel exactly the same way! i might want to get an iphone but im scared i’m going to get addicted and i dont want to put myself in a place of temptation. however i want it cuz i could put music on it and use it to take clear pictures and my phone now always breaks on me.March 18, 2012 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #11445242scentsParticipant
Common, You can take pictures with your camera, and keep music on your iPod.
Addiction is real, if it concerns you, try to avoid it if possible.March 19, 2012 12:14 am at 12:14 am #1144525s2021Member
Good for u for being real enough with urself to see ur not infallible. Not everyone is that honest. Take care of urself and dont put urself in harms way. like 2scents said- addiction is real. Even if it doesnt concern u, it should. It starts somewhere right?March 19, 2012 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1144526BTGuyParticipant
Technology is tricky.
Yes, they can be addictive and waste time.
But they can also be powerful tools of communication and very handle for learning and podcasts, etc.; all of which can enhance and keep you informed of things going on in the Jewish world, the world of science, the news, and interesting apps for astronomy and just about anything else you can think of…it’s all there.March 19, 2012 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1144527
Plants vs. Zombies is awesome 😀March 19, 2012 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #1144528BTGuyParticipant
The problem is that once you get all your pea shooters and all that lined up nicely, when you go to the next level, you have to do your lawn all over again from scratch.March 19, 2012 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #1144529
I KNOW RIGHT?! OH MY GOD! its so annoying. although i just beat the game like yesterday and im enjoying playing the easy levels with massive overkill and those flowers that give coins 🙂March 19, 2012 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #1144530OneOfManyParticipant
lol I love that game. 😀March 25, 2012 4:46 am at 4:46 am #1144531brotherofursParticipant
2scents, problem is: i dont hvae a working camera of ipod..March 25, 2012 9:43 am at 9:43 am #1144532Shraga18Participant
“As for the “a word”, if you believe in technology addiction as its own entity, you’re too dumb to own a smartphone. It’s a symptom of human nature. We, as humans, crave social interaction, which the internet facilitates in unprecedented ways. Hence the seeming “addiction”. It’s natural. Hashem created us like that.”
Ok, and therefore what? Are you trying to say that being that it’s natural it’s ok? So would you extend that to gilu’i arayos which is a very natural desire?
Oh, wait a minute. Before that you said “As the developer of the YWN Radio app I’m biased”. Ah. Case closed.March 29, 2016 2:45 am at 2:45 am #1144533
Do you think they really did crack the iPhone, or did they just say that to make Apple look bad?March 30, 2016 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #1144534March 31, 2016 1:44 am at 1:44 am #1144535
There is a easy way to hack the iPhone (You need about $50,000) worth of equipment , You can use brute force and trust try every combination until you figure out the code and trick the phone into allowing you unlimited tries to figure it out. It take 2-7 days to do thisMarch 31, 2016 1:48 am at 1:48 am #1144536
So why did the FBI make such a big deal out of it?March 31, 2016 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #1144537HashemisreadingParticipant
If you want a normal family life, if you want your kids to feel loved, if you want to speak to people you care about instead of texting them four words a month, dont get a toy. get a phone.
Greatly worded! I couldn’t have said it better myself.March 31, 2016 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1144538
So why did the FBI make such a big deal out of it?
I dont know exactly why, but I suppose they didnt want to hack it themselves and would rather have had Apple do it
Besides by letter an outsider hack it, you dont know who now knows that informationMarch 31, 2016 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #1144539MenoParticipant
“and trick the phone into allowing you unlimited tries to figure it out”
If I’m not mistaken, that’s the hard part.
Why do you need $50,000 worth of equipment?March 31, 2016 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1144540
Why do you need $50,000 worth of equipment?
After 10 tries the iPhone bricks itself and becomes unsuable, you need the equipment to trick the iPhone into allowing unlimited attempts. it has something to do with the chips that you have to reset
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