Is Arabic Holy?

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    Yabia Omer
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    It was spoken by the Geonim, the Rambam and countless other rabbis. Unlike Germanic Yiddish, it is also linguistically related to Semitic Hebrew

    #1735354

    Heargod
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    Is the moon purple?
    Because the world is round.
    The moon stands on it’s end

    #1735293

    Joseph
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    Ladino is holy. Arabic is not.

    #1735514

    Yabia Omer
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    How do you figure??

    #1735605

    Joseph,
    Depends.
    Possibly Ladino of the Me’am Loez

    #1735602

    lakewhut
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    There are different dialects of Arabic. Syriac is similar to Aramaic. I wouldn’t say the dialect dpoken in Morocco is holy.

    #1735645

    Yabia Omer
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    Syriac is NOT a dialect of Arabic. It is more closely related to Aramaic. I would not say the dialect spoken in Morocco is holy either. Nor Syria, Egypt, Iraq etc.

    #1735651

    lakewhut
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    Then Arabic is not holy

    #1735657

    ahgutvurt
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    If the sages speaking a language makes it holy than you need to consider others as well.Old french was spoken by Rashi and Tosafot does that make french holy? Also it was not Arabic per se but rather Judeo-Arabic that was spoken by the Jews of the Middle East and North Africa. Which like Yiddish included many Hebrew Aramaic terms.
    As for Arabic being related to “Semitic Hebrew” So are many other languages. Would you say that
    Tigrinya a Semitic language spoken by people of Eritrea is holy?

    #1735666

    Yabia Omer
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    No but I’d say that Arabic would be closer than Yiddish solely based on that. I think neither are holy.

    #1735673

    Joseph
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    Aramaic and Judeo-Arabic are holy.

    #1735694

    frumshmurda718
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    It’s a very beautiful language with many many words from Hebrew, I could list so many words are are from the same shoresh in Hebrew. So it might be

    #1735703

    ahgutvurt
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    Yabia omer. The reasoning for those who say Yiddish is holy is because it has been “Judaized” i.e. it is a purely Jewish vernacular. Arabic on the other hand ,Semitic origin notwithstanding is a bonafide gentile tongue .
    It is not the same.

    #1735734

    Yabia Omer
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    Not accurate Ahg. There are Jewish dialects of Arabic.

    #1735779

    5ish
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    Syriac is not similar to Aramaic. It is a dialect of Aramaic.

    #1736168

    ahgutvurt
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    Yabia Well you asked if “Arabic” is holy .Not the Jewish dialects of Arabic .

    #1736216

    Yabia Omer
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    Correct. And I posit that even the Jewish dialects are not holy. Just like Yiddish is not holy.

    #1736373

    ahgutvurt
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    Yabia OK But if your argument was based on assuming that those who believe Yiddish is holy don’t believe that Judaeo Arabic or Ladino is holy and that this is an inconsistent position. Then you may have “built a house of cards” .Because they probably would consider those holy as well.

    #1736459

    belgiumbull
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    dear joseph hi
    please help me understand the meaning of the word LADINO
    thanks in advance
    yours belgiumbully

    #1736468

    avreichamshlomo
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    This is how you waste your time? Having a pilpul discussion, not about a torah topic, but whether or not which one is closer to being holy, albeit none are holy?

    What a waste of life

    #1736550

    ubiquitin
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    ACS

    I agree! can we revive your excellent torah topic thread on wars starting or ending every 28 years ?

    That was much more productive

    #1736901

    shpitzygoilem
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    Loshon HaMeshugah.

    #1736919

    avreichamshlomo
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    Ubiquitin, why dont you stop talking in shul? And before you say anything, just like cant talk during davening, you cant talk in shul at all.

    #1736946

    ahgutvurt
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    avreichamshlomo After reading through many of your posts in the coffee room I would simply say מום שבך אל תאמר לחברך . In fact if you were truly so holy and did not waste any of your own time you would not be browsing the coffee room .
    Besides this topic does touch on hashkafadig issues, yet out of all the inane conversations on ywn coffee room you chose this one to get all self righteously angry about ? REALLY?

    #1739193

    charliehall
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    If you burn the works of Rabbi Saadia Gaon, Rambam, or Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi, you will have to answer in Olam HaBa. Even though they were (mostly) written in Arabic.

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