Is it healthy for yeshiva bochurim to learn from a New Vilna Shas?

As opposed to Oz V’hodor?

Is it healthy for bachurim to skip learning נך.
Majority of yeshivos totally skip it.

Define “healthy”. Is it healthy for math students to have calculators? Is it healthy for writers to have spell/grammar-checks? The world keeps evolving and some skills may be weakened while others are strengthened. With the invention of matches, many of us lost the skill of starting a fire by rubbing sticks together – is that unhealthy? Was the printing of “mesoras haShas” unhealthy (cross references each segment of Gemarah with other places it is mentioned)? Today there are seforim on databases with search engines! A rov can search for teshuvas! The market today is flooded with Seforim that are melaket (collect) in halacha. drush, meforshim on chumash…Get with the program. While we make learning easier, it allows for energy to be spent on deeper concepts in the learning.

Thank you Knaidl for you hascoma, and at 100%, that is a maximum agreement! I would add that there is a “yeridas hadoros” which requires compensation in Torah academia. I think the rosh yeshivas of today are not like the rosh yeshivas of previous generations, but would bochurim today really appreciate the depth and creativity of a shiyur from Reb Chaim (the GRACH), or Reb Elchonon, or Reb Boruch Ber or Reb Moshe Mordechai or Reb Shimon Shkop….Yiftach b’doro k’Shmuel b’doro, each dor gets leaders acording to the dor. I would suggest, each dor gets a shas according to the needs of that dor!

Participant, are you not familiar with the tragic history of Rebbitzen Goldenpickanicerscreenname’s name?

Reb Yid: By all means, remind us all of “the tragic history of Rebbitzen Golden-Pick-A-Nicer-Screen-Name’s name”! Was it tragic?

Is it healthy for bachurim to skip learning נך.
Majority of yeshivos totally skip it.

I think the print is too clear and standard and therefore too easy to read. It definitely takes away some of the ameilus b’torah.

Reb,
“Today there are seforim on databases with search engines! A rov can search for teshuvas! The market today is flooded with Seforim that are melaket (collect) in halacha.”

If you are a true Lamdan you will see that is precisely the indication of what is the con of all those search engines etc.

I have seen numerous quotations of these so-called “melaktim” that have been totaly either misquoted or, totaly out of context. Many times the opposite of final halacha etc.

That is no doubt a result of one using. “search” and not knowing thoroughly, but rather seeing quickly a qoute and not learning the final end, or the next teshuvah.

However, there is nothing wrong by using search here and there, but if that is your entire basis of knlowedge then your knlowedge is not true kinyan of yedios. You might remember it for a day or a week, but it will never be a part of you.

You will never find someone like Rav Ovadia Yosef misquoting, for his knlowedge was obtained through yegiah and learning through these seforim from cover to cover.

What’s wrong with the new vilna shas? It sounds like someone just doesn’t like the word NEW.
New doesn’t mean bad or wrong.