April 18, 2014 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #612602
A certain ad disturbs my sensitivity. Just wondering… no one else seems disturbed. Or maybe no one else is here (where) now.April 18, 2014 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1012259
Which ad? Where?April 18, 2014 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #1012260HaLeiViParticipant
On my little device, I shut off images and Flash doesn’t work anyhow. So, I’m completely fine with all the ad placeholders.April 18, 2014 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1012261RedlegParticipant
Froggie, what’s wrong with just ignoring it? These days it is virtually impossible to avoid everything, adverts included, that may be offensive. One kind of ad that I find offensive are the ones that, for a specific donation amount, 40 “tzadikim” will daven at the Kosel for 40 days and 40 nights which is a sure segula and cure fore everything from cancer to athlete’s foot.April 18, 2014 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #1012262
????? is doche ???.April 19, 2014 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #1012263ChortkovParticipant
This works even without any filter installed (I think!) Go to Chrome App Store and download free “Ad Block”. It simply makes all the adds vanish.
Dunno about Internet Explorer or Firefox.April 20, 2014 4:07 am at 4:07 am #1012264
Thanks ton, Yekke2. I was referring to the very untznius ad about birthright, or something like that, that kept popping up at every screen. Funny, but it even went through my Jnet filtering.
And Redleg, it should offend / disturb anyone that has an active yetzer to contend with.April 20, 2014 6:17 am at 6:17 am #1012265
I didn’t see any such ad, on any screen. Maybe it’s your browser.April 20, 2014 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1012266
DY, you’re right, I was using a remote computer, since my “lab” was sold. Maybe it was only the computer. I don’t remember seeing anything wrong on my main computer. Still, why should it only be showing on CR pages?
ps don’t mention anything of this to Katan, he’ll go bananas about the tzionim (I think it was rather reform, who cares) sacrificing yiddishkite for going to Isreal..April 20, 2014 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #1012267Sam2Participant
LF: Do you have any idea how many people who have zero connection to Yiddishkeit learn something and come closer to being Frum because of Birthright?April 20, 2014 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #1012268
LF, based on my observation, these ads are generated according to content, as you’ll find with some email providers.
The programmed algorithms generated “Jewish” (or Israel) themed ads based on the content in the CR.April 20, 2014 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1012269
Sam, that may or may not be the case, but it doesn’t excuse pritzus.April 20, 2014 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1012270
Sam2, That’s an old machlokes. But I think we don’t say ??? ?? ????? ????? ????? ???. Besides you could have but in a more decent picture. Are only untznius activities (and pictures of so splattered all around) going to pull people to Yiddishkite? Judaism has NOTHING else to sell?!?
Sorry, I think we’ll leave this to Katan & Co. (Let the bombs fall..)
editedApril 20, 2014 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1012271EpisParticipant
yekke2, happy to hear someone litens to my ideas on how to block adsApril 20, 2014 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #1012272RedlegParticipant
Froggie, I’m 70 years old. At my age I don’t have to avoid temptation, Temptation avoids me.April 20, 2014 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1012273
?? ????? ????? ?? ??? ????April 20, 2014 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1012274squeakParticipant
DY- we already know that Negiya Can Save Yiddishkeit, so why not all types of pritzus?
Agav, to Sams point, it may feel good to make a cholent for someone who has zero connection to yiddishkeit, but it would be a much more worthwhile endeavor to focus that energy on the ones who have a 100% connection to Yiddishkeit and decide they want zero. Kiruv rechokim is so 90’s.April 20, 2014 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #1012275hodulashemParticipant
Little Froggie: it is not only you… i was quite perturbed by it! couldn’t believe that A. they chose that picture and B. it was advertised on YWN!April 20, 2014 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #1012276
Hodulashem, I think we’ve established that it was not a YWN ad, it was probably a third party ad through your browser.
It’s probably motzi shem ra to blame it in YWN.April 20, 2014 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #1012277Sam2Participant
LF: I’m not familiar with the ad in question, so I can’t comment directly. I’m not going to make judgment calls on other people’s sensitivities, but if it was up to me I would guess that a girl in a short-sleeve short or shorts in a tiny 4 square-inch ad isn’t going to ruin anyone’s Ruchnius and could bring people to Yiddishkeit.
The reason even Frum Kiruv places are willing to show not-Tznius girls is because they want to give accurate representations of what their programs are. First of all, it’s more honest. And secondly, they don’t want people who wear short sleeves or whatever to feel uncomfortable going on the program.
That being said, people should be smart about ads. Most people using this site are quite Frum and would probably be more sensitive to such things than the average Birthright person. So YWN is probably not the place for such an ad, because the ratio of people who are offended to those who would be interested is probably very, very high. So while I could hear the claim that the ad in general is worth it, putting it on YWN probably isn’t.
I edited Little Froggie’s post, but he described the ad as worse than short sleeves. -100April 20, 2014 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1012278
DY: The site puts the third-party ad generator (something like Google Advertising) on its site allowing that third-party to generate random, supposedly relevant, ads on its site. Without the site putting the third-party ad agent on its site, no third-party ads would appear on the site. Thus the site does bear responsibility for what appears at it has the option to not use a third-party ad service and use only internal, and approved, ads.
Sam: Short-sleeves is forbidden to look at and thus cannot be used in ads. Irregardless if that supposedly might attract non-frum people to look into frumkeit. You can’t do something that causes frum people to sin because it might make non-frum people frum.April 20, 2014 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1012279
I don’t know how that works, but I do know that for me, it didn’t show up on two separate browsers.April 23, 2014 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1012280
DY: To put it more simply, a website needs to allow (and code their website to display) third-party ads in order for them to appear, otherwise no third-party ads can appear on the site.
Do you use an adblocker on your browser? That would explain why you didn’t see the ads even if they’re being displayed.April 23, 2014 5:32 am at 5:32 am #1012281
Yes Sam, I didn’t realize I was (again) edited, apparently even explicit mention of it here didn’t belong. So there was a valid concern. I’m back to my “lab”, seems that everything is fine here.
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