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DJ style music with beats sounding no different than what non Jews would listen to. All in the name of “farbrengen, leil shishi, simchas choson v’kallah. Now concerts with a similar style to summer festivals that non-Jews have.
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Thank you for noticing and pointing this problem out.
It’s really sad and brings tears to my eyes what has happened to klal yisroel in regards to listening to music.
Compare today’s music and singers to last generation and you will see a major difference. Today’s music-what they consider jewish cause it’s composed and sang by a jewish singer-is actually coming STRAIGHT FROM THE GOYIM with just changing the words of the song to a jewish sentence. And this us ehatvis really effecting a person’s Neshama and ruchnius. Its not the words of the song that effects the person listening to the song but THE RUACH and spirit of the song. And with today’s rocky hockey songs rocken the wedding hall and houses people are not realizing how much this effects their Neshama.
Stop hurting yourself and your Neshama by listening to these new songs that actually come STRAIGHT FROM THE GOYIM with just the words changed into a passuk from navi or Chumash etc…..
This has been the same complaint for at least hundreds of years. If a person thinks the Yiddishe music they’re listening to is unique and has no relation to goyish music, that usually means they are not familiar with the goyish music that the Yiddishe music is similar to. Sfardi music sounds like Arab music. Chassidishe nigunim sound like military marches and other music popular in the countries and times they are from, and some are even exact copies sung vocally instead of being played on instruments (I once heard someone sing Shalom Aleichem to the tune of Beethoven’s Fur Elise, he swore it was a nigun from I think Belz?). Chazzanus is literally just opera music.
This is not to say that we should freely be listening to goyish music. The above listed styles are currently and were in the past similar to the goyish style, but missing a lot of the negatives. For example, the DJ style music that sounds “no different than what non Jews would listen to” in fact has major differences. Our music has no pritzus, no nivul peh, and is composed of quotes from the torah or chazal. Our music is (mostly) played at events conducted in accordance with halacha.
It is also important to point out that different music is meant for different crowds. If you feel an event/song/singer is too close to the goyish style for you, keep in mind it is likely meant for people who would otherwise be engaging with the FAR worse goyish version.
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We’ve been through this a thousand times, and as far as I can tell it’s just an easy soapbox for someone to claim moral superiority without having to substantiate or even explain their position.
Please provide a definition of “Jewish music.”
Also, please explain why Chassidishe niggunim are all so similar in style to Eastern European music of 200 years ago, why Sefardic music is so similar in style to Arabic music, etc.
The fact is that our music has been influenced by that of the culture around us for centuries, and this is true even of those songs that you consider the purest Jewish niggunim.
@Sam Klein points with nostalgia to the music and singers of “last generation.” Taken literally, this would refer to the music and singers of the early 2000’s, which were not substantially different from that of today. In fact, I’m sure we can find Sammy boy lodging the same complaint in the nascent days of the CR (albeit under a different User Name). Perhaps he refers to 40 years ago, when MBD was singing Yidden, and Abie Rotenberg was adapting the style of Peter, Paul and Mary? Or 60 years ago, the days of Shlomo Carlebach and the Diaspora Yeshiva Band? 80 years brings us right back to when the greatest talents in Modzitz were emulating the Eastern European composers, as noted above…With one or two exceptions, our tunes are not from the Beis HaMikdash, and what you might find inspirational and meaningful might be old-fashioned and meaningless to someone else.
Remember, those songs that you recall so fondly and with such reverence earned the scorn of the cranky old fuddy duddy of your younger years.
Go do something important with your time.
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