July 13, 2011 2:38 am at 2:38 am #597927
Is Mishpacha Magazine Considered Left-of-Center in the frum world? That’s what I am understanding as why some people don’t want their children to read it.July 13, 2011 2:49 am at 2:49 am #866959wanderingchanaParticipant
Left-of-center frum or left-of-center chareidi, and does that mean right-of-MO?July 13, 2011 3:08 am at 3:08 am #866960AnnonymouschochomParticipant
It’s all of the above!
Chareidi, centered, left of center, right of cenetr, Frum, MO, right of MO, left of MO, and Lubavitch!!
Whatever it takes to sell their magazine.
And that is why some people do not want their children to read it!July 13, 2011 3:43 am at 3:43 am #866961hello99Participant
depends what you call “center”. Mishpacha is certainly left of Yated, Hamodia and Binah; but Ami is even further leftJuly 13, 2011 4:14 am at 4:14 am #866963
hello: How is Ami further left than Mishpacha?July 13, 2011 4:19 am at 4:19 am #866964Jersey JewParticipant
I will tell you that for the most part, they are politically left of center as is evident by their belief in various leftist propaganda, some of which is AGAINST the Torah. But then again, a lot of what leftists stand for is against the Torah.July 13, 2011 6:30 am at 6:30 am #866965htbtMember
That’s a great questions but in my opinion the answers here totally do not represent the reality or majority opinion.
I’m reading Mishpacha for years and while there are definitely some things I wouldn’t want my children to read I do not think that justifies it being called left of center. Yes, its the first magazine that dares to touch on certain issues, but they do it in such a professional and respectful way that when you’re reading it you don’t feel like it’s forced sensationalism just to get you to read. It’s also not condescending or propoganda based. Since they’re the first it leaves us wondering about right-center-left but but the bottom line is they jumped right in to a huge void in our community and are doing a wonderful job of the challenge they took on for themselves. Sometimes they do slip up, like everyone in this human world, but the way they deal with it when it happens is admirable.
Say all you want but the biggest proof of this is all the copycatism that we see now in the old newspapers and the new onesJuly 13, 2011 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #866968adorableParticipant
depends what you call “center”. Mishpacha is certainly left of Yated, Hamodia and Binah; but Ami is even further left
could not have said it better myself. thank you. I know there is a big rav here that does not allow his congregation to buy it. He told them they can buy the other magazines but not the Mishpacha. I dont know about the Ami but I heard its even more left than the Mishpacha so I can only imagine what he would say about that. Why must you read it either way?July 13, 2011 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #866969tzippiMember
Sanctimony on the Internet would make an excellent name for a rock band.July 13, 2011 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #866970apushatayidParticipant
Depends where you place the center.July 13, 2011 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #866972bombmaniacParticipant
what apushitayid said and like i said…I WANT CITATIONS!!! really…dont bash a magazine if you cant back up your claims. i want issue numbers and specific article references for every single criticism you people dole out.July 14, 2011 3:27 am at 3:27 am #866973mddMember
What are that Rov’s ta’anos on “Mishpacha”?July 14, 2011 4:51 am at 4:51 am #866974posekMember
Mishpacha, IMHO, has managed to be Torahdik and filled with Jewish taam even as they tackle real issues in a real way. They are accepted by the mainstream, from Willie to Lakewood, but also in Teaneck and all over Europe.
The fact that major league gedolim, rebbes and rabbanim give them interviews all the time tells you that they are center, for sure.
Yated, HAmodia are to the right of them though, for sure.July 14, 2011 5:48 am at 5:48 am #866975Midwest2Participant
Ami left of center? with Avi Shafran as editor? Ami is the 21st century reincarnation of The Jewish Observer. Remember that when the Observer folded Agudah mentioned looking into doing a publication in a different format? Well, Ami is it. It happens to be a stealth operation, possibly because they want to be able to print articles without their being “official.” Yes, their US politics aren’t very right wing as per Yated and Hamodia. They’re more center – say just right of center. Definitely not left-wing. After all, they do want readership outside the Tristate area.
And don’t pick on Mishpacha. It isn’t “left” or “right” – it’s realist. It was the first publication to speak directly to us about how we live our lives. Remember that Mishpacha was the first publication to run Rabbi Yaakov Horowitz’s columns on OTD children and chinuch, back when the Observer had to make a major production out of doing an issue on it at all. Granted, for the Observer’s crowd that was a very brave thing to do, but it was done as a daring act. Mishpacha doesn’t worry about “daring” – it just addresses the issues, like chinuch and parnassa and the practical side of the shidduch crisis. The other magazines try to copycat, but they just haven’t gotten it right yet.
Yashir koach to Mishpacha!July 14, 2011 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #866976
Ami is definitely not the reincarnation of the Jewish Observer.
Also, Rabbi Horowitz himself caters more on the left-wing of Chareidikeit.July 14, 2011 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #866977adorableParticipant
Anyone here goes to Rabbi schlesinger in Monsey and would like to tell us what he said about the Mishapacha? I dont wanna say anything that I did not hear personally from him.
Mods- isnt this thread a little “scary”- could go down a slippery slope of Lashon Hara. JMHOJuly 14, 2011 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #866978mamashtakahMember
with Avi Shafran as editor?
It’s so annoying how the frum community often leaves proper titles off when referring to them. The correct reference is Rabbi Avi Shafran, or Rav Avi Shafran. Let’s not disrespect people.July 14, 2011 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #866979tzippiMember
To Droid: is that because the right wing of Chareidikeit isn’t on the internet?July 14, 2011 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #866980bombmaniacParticipant
i dont see why…i mean does it mean youre more left of center if you publish important articles that no one else wants to publish?
unless you mean the stuff theyve published about the internet. your point would be that since the article would not apply most right wingers (charedim) that the magazine must be left of center for publishing it. i beg to differ. you can have right wing policies and still publish content for those left of center. think of it as right wing propoganda…July 14, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #866981posekMember
Ami is more daring and edgy then Mishpacha, catering to a different market I think.
I have a son in law by Rav Shlesinger in Monsey I know what he said, he was against article about the Rambams father they once published and they apologized it was a mistake, a story by Chaimn Walder published in a supplement.
Mishpacha has a rov.April 11, 2012 1:05 am at 1:05 am #866982Right PathMember
Mishpacha is Zionistic.April 11, 2012 5:51 am at 5:51 am #866983arcParticipant
Ami is worse than mishpachah Binah seems to me to be geared as a whole to women but equal to mishpachah.
I don’t think they are really left but they address issues that yated etc wont.April 11, 2012 11:10 am at 11:10 am #866984
“Mishpacha is Zionistic.” As is unfortunately most of the chareidi world in the US, in particular, and in the UK to a much lesser level ?”?.
Personally, I have heard of all the criticism. While I don’t specifically buy it, I do sometimes read it somewhere or occasionally buy it and have never seen anything shocking.
(Then I should note I also use BBC, CNN, Haaretz, Ynetnews, Arutz Sheva and numerous other sources, so I am not quite inside a protective cocoon like some chareidim are, especially children. For those who really want to shield their children from the Big Bad World, Mishpacha might not be the greatest thing to have in the house – same goes for all magazines and papers, then.)
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