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November 18, 2015 12:52 am at 12:52 am #616669newbeeMember
When we say there is a high degree of shechinah that is shoreh upon multiple Jews learning Torah, does this include learning via the internet or via the phone?
November 18, 2015 1:49 am at 1:49 am #1113739☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant(That’s mostly not what happens in the Coffee Room.)
The question is, is it different from Jews learning
Torah separately? The Shechinah is associated with
certain numbers of Jews coming together, which leads
me to think that a physical concentration of Jews is
needed, and when they are learning Torah, fewer Jews
are needed than if they were not.
November 18, 2015 2:08 am at 2:08 am #1113740JosephParticipantHow about learning Torah via postal mail or email.
November 18, 2015 2:53 am at 2:53 am #1113741Torah613TorahParticipantSure, when we’re learning Torah.
November 18, 2015 3:06 am at 3:06 am #1113742Little FroggieParticipantWould I be “LIVING HERE” if the Shechinah wouldn’t be here?!?
November 18, 2015 10:52 am at 10:52 am #1113743555ParticipantTorah, When was the last time somebody was learning TORAH on the CR? i don’t mean arguing about it, even though it might lead to somebody opening a sefer for reference. It is Offically NOT a makom torah. Just people who have once learned torah post what they know, exchange info and forget when they shut the computer.(or leave the sight)
The ShChina is never Shoreh where there is L”H!(
November 18, 2015 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1113744oomisParticipantI believe yes. When we are not arguing and showing sinas chinam to each other, but discussing things intelligently and respectfully, with Divrei Torah included and k’vod habrios, I believe the Shechinah could be here. Hashem is always with us even when we don’t merit His Presence, kal v’chomer in good times. Let’s leave the L”H at the door, though.
November 20, 2015 12:10 am at 12:10 am #1113745☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantHashem is always with us even when we don’t merit His Presence
Hashem is everywhere, but this does not mean that the Shechinah is.
I believe the Shechinah could be here.
But “here” (the CR) is not an actual location.
(I would’ve mentioned this at the beginning if the thread’s
content hadn’t been entirely disconnected from the title.)
When we are not arguing and showing sinas chinam to each other, but discussing things intelligently and respectfully, with Divrei Torah included and k’vod habrios, I believe the Shechinah could be here.
Even if we were doing that in real life, I don’t think
we’d qualify for the presence of the Shechinah (except
perhaps during the divrei Torah).
November 20, 2015 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1113746👑RebYidd23ParticipantI love 555’s self-fulfilling prophecy.
November 20, 2015 1:49 am at 1:49 am #1113747skripkaParticipantmaybe it is on a thread by thread basis
November 23, 2015 12:38 am at 12:38 am #1113748pcozMemberThe cyber-shechinah is shoreh in the coffee room.
November 23, 2015 8:24 am at 8:24 am #1113749–ParticipantBut “here” (the CR) is not an actual location.
The CR is located in Grapevine Texas, a suburb of Dallas.
November 23, 2015 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #1113750pcozMemberDallas is located in a suburb of the Mir Yeshiva.
November 24, 2015 12:06 am at 12:06 am #1113751newbeeMember“The CR is located in Grapevine Texas, a suburb of Dallas.”
I dont think you know how the internet works.
November 24, 2015 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #1113752Torah613TorahParticipantThe Shechina is not something tangible, so it doesn’t need a tangible location to be.
November 24, 2015 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1113753newbeeMemberBut does the shechina that happens when two chavrusas learn together happen to two people who learn together in the coffee room.
November 24, 2015 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #1113754newbeeMemberFor instance, Torah613Torah, is the shechina shoreh upon us right now for even discussing this topic the same way it would be if instead of typing this we were talking about it in person?
Or is there some sort of osmosis that happens only in person?
November 26, 2015 1:20 am at 1:20 am #1113755☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantThe Shechina is not something tangible,
so it doesn’t need a tangible location to be.
Physical locations are by definition tangible.
We are talking about a metaphysical phenomenon
that nevertheless is physically locatable.
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