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  • January 17, 2011 3:48 am at 3:48 am #594257
    Sender Av
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    In my shul, as in many, when the Torah is being brought through the congregation on Shabbos the Rabbi follows and comes to greet and shake the hands of the congregates. My question is : is it rude to go up and kiss the Torah and go back to your seat before the Rabbi reaches you(snubbing rabbi?). My intention is just to go back to my seat to keep up with the service not to snub him C’V. Is this rude?

    January 17, 2011 3:49 am at 3:49 am #729399
    theObvious
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    yeh, i think so!

    January 17, 2011 3:51 am at 3:51 am #729400
    real-brisker
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    Nothing is rude unless the person that you are being rude to knows. The famous saying “what you dont know doesnt hurt”.

    January 17, 2011 4:01 am at 4:01 am #729401
    popa_bar_abba
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    Who cares if it is rude?

    Just think about if you want the consequences.

    Do you want the rabbi to think you are deliberately snubbing him?

    January 17, 2011 4:05 am at 4:05 am #729402
    real-brisker
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    popa – Humans nature tends not to be rude. I think your first phrase and second phrase are stirahs one to the other.

    January 17, 2011 4:06 am at 4:06 am #729403
    popa_bar_abba
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    RB: Elaborate please.

    January 17, 2011 4:06 am at 4:06 am #729404
    mewho
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    i think you should wait till the rabbi shakes your hand. once she has done that, you can go back to your seat

    This was too good to not post

    January 17, 2011 4:10 am at 4:10 am #729405
    real-brisker
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    rude = consenquenses. Why else would someone care about – if something is rude or not, if the person that you were rude to wouldnt care or mind?

    January 17, 2011 4:13 am at 4:13 am #729406
    Sender Av
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    wow mewho…I would never have guessed if you would not have told me. I mean the beard and deep voice really fooled me. I guess its a good thing I sometimes dont shake his/her hand.

    January 17, 2011 4:15 am at 4:15 am #729407
    popa_bar_abba
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    I completely disagree.

    I personally think one shouldn’t be rude even to someone who does not care about their own honor. Rudeness and insult are not connected.

    I was addressing the OP and saying that even if this is not “rude”, it may lead to consequences that he does not want.

    January 17, 2011 4:17 am at 4:17 am #729408
    theObvious
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    can someone explain mewhos post? i am really confused… i guess i’m slow 🙂

    January 17, 2011 4:21 am at 4:21 am #729409
    real-brisker
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    popa – what you dont know doesnt hurt, what whould the rabbi care if he didnt know that someone didnt want to shake his hand? he wouldnt care cause he wouldnt know. so rudeness is only if the guy knows.

    January 17, 2011 4:24 am at 4:24 am #729410
    popa_bar_abba
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    RB:

    I don’t understand.

    I am assuming the rabbi will notice.

    January 17, 2011 4:27 am at 4:27 am #729411
    Sender Av
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    Popa, what kind of consequences?

    Obvious, mewho referred to the rabbi as a “she”.

    January 17, 2011 4:28 am at 4:28 am #729412
    real-brisker
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    popa – if the rabbi will notice than its simply rude, unless the rabbi realizes that this guy had some sort of reason why he couldnt shake his hand (kielu a oynes).

    January 17, 2011 5:43 am at 5:43 am #729413
    TheGoq
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    anti-social perhaps but not rude

    January 17, 2011 5:51 am at 5:51 am #729414
    yanky dino
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    rb i dont know what you are talking about let us take your “theory” to an extreme are you saying that if someone were to murder someone else but NO ONE will ever find out then thats ok???????? whatever happened to behaving properly just because?

    January 17, 2011 6:53 am at 6:53 am #729415
    charliehall
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    “This was too good to not post “

    ROTF!!!!

    January 17, 2011 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #729416
    Sender Av
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    Charlie, dont you want to laugh while you are down there?

    January 18, 2011 12:00 am at 12:00 am #729417
    Sender Av
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    bump..bump…( I need more opinions)

    January 18, 2011 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm #729418
    winny1
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    you are talking about waiting an extra 30 seconds or so at the expense of hurting someones feelings. YES IT IS RUDE.

    January 18, 2011 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #729419
    mewho
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    i’m really quite clever, but you have to read carefully or you might miss the magic of my moment!!

    January 18, 2011 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #729420
    nfgo3
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    Most rabbis understand the difference between themselves and the Torah. Waiting for the rabbi slows the procession of the Torah, and moving promptly to your seat after showing your respect for the Torah is not rude – it allows others to do likewise. And most rabbis have aches in their right hand by the end of Shabbos, and one less handshake is probably appreciated.

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