Islam Fulfilled G-d's Promise To Yishmael That He Would Become A Great Nation

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    creamsoda
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    Islam Fulfilled G-d’s Promise To Yishmael That He Would Become A Great Nation

    #1138648
    Luna Lovegood
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    Muslims are not the decendants of Yishmael. While ideologically they may be similar they are not genetically linked.

    #1138649
    akuperma
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    The only Muslims who are “Yismaelim” are in the Arabian penninsula. The rest are descended of those who lived there before the Islamic conquest. While some Arabs resettled in the conquered countries and took (not necessarily with their consent) local women as wives, most Muslims are descended from whomever was living their before with at most a small bit of Arab DNA. That many speak Arabic doesn’t mean they are of Arab descent (just as the fact that we write in English doesn’t prove we are of Anglo-Saxon descent – in fact only a small percentage of English-speakers worldwide have biological roots in England).

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    so who are muslims decendants from? who are their true forefathers?

    #1138651
    screwdriverdelight
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    Is says somewhere (I forgot where) that Arabs nowadays aren’t ???? in ???? because ??? ?????? and ??? ????? have become integrated with each other.

    #1138652
    Joseph
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    SDD: When were any non-Jews, ??? ??????/Arab or otherwise, ever ???? in ????? It isn’t part of the ??? ????? ??? ??.

    #1138653
    akuperma
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    To : Mashiach Agent

    Islam is a religion based on beliefs. It isn’t inherited. As with Christianity, its rather clear that intellectually it was based on Judaism with a lot of other stuff thrown in. Biologically, there is overwhelming evidence they are descended from Adam ha-Rishon by way of Noach, making them our cousins.

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    The Queen
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    ” Biologically, there is overwhelming evidence they are descended from Adam ha-Rishon by way of Noach, making them our cousins.”

    Everyone presently living on planet earth is a descendent of Adam by way of Noach.

    #1138655
    Bubba21
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    The Queen: dont tell Donald Trump that his daughter is now related to Muslims… he will have a hissy fit.

    #1138656
    The Queen
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    ” dont tell Donald Trump that his daughter is now related to Muslims… he will have a hissy fit.”

    Won’t that be entertaining! ?

    #1138657
    apushatayid
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    how are the muslims in malaysia connected to yishmael?

    #1138658
    The Queen
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    Related through their mutual Zeida Noach.

    #1138659
    👑RebYidd23
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    I didn’t know we were Yishmaelim.

    #1138660
    screwdriverdelight
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    Is says somewhere (I forgot where) that Arabs nowadays aren’t ?????? in ???? because ??? ?????? and ??? ????? have become integrated with each other.

    ???”? ??’ ????? ? ? says they are ?????? for that reason

    #1138661
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Sdd,

    What chiyuv do bnei yishmael have

    The reason we are michuyav in Milah is because it’s written in the Torah, not because of Avraham

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    screwdriverdelight
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    why don’t you look at the rambam, and Sanhedrin 59b

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