November 9, 2021 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #2026422RomainParticipant
The Israeli police force arrest thousands of chareidim every time
They protest even when there’s no violence, as soon as the protest starts the isreili police force is already using rubber bullets
And stun grenades, while there’s videos of hundreds of thousands
Of arabs rioting and killing people beating up people
And the police are either not there at all or there and not doing
Anything, and the same with the ethiopian protestsNovember 9, 2021 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #2026448akupermaParticipant
The idea of zionism is to create a homeland for non-Chareidi Jews, and either to “convert” or drive out the Chareidim. Based on your complaint, would you have been shocked if the Gestapo was being rude to Jews????November 9, 2021 3:44 pm at 3:44 pm #2026456Yabia OmerParticipant
The idea of zionism is to create a homeland for non-Chareidi Jews?November 9, 2021 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #2026539HaKatanParticipant
Actually, the purpose of Zionism was and is, as Rav Chaim Brisker explained a century ago, long before 1948, simply shmad.
He said that people think that the Zionists shmad in order to achieve a State. But it’s the opposite: Zionists need a State in order to shmad.
The main goal of Zionism, as proudly noted on any of their web sites, is to change the Jewish people from a G-dly Torah people to a godless land-based nationalist nation.
That’s the purpose of Zionism. Always was and, of course, still is.
But, yes, chareidim (in and out of Israel) are living proof that Zionism is just a Big Lie and shmad.November 9, 2021 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #2026570HaLeiViParticipant
Who is a Zionist?
But anyhow, yeah, it’s not nice.November 10, 2021 7:27 am at 7:27 am #2026646lilaParticipant
Undeserved or underserved?November 10, 2021 10:27 am at 10:27 am #2026731Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
> Undeserved or underserved?
None of the above! R Zusia and R eliezer (brothers) were sleeping in an inn while drunkards were dancing and kicking R Zusia who was closer to them. His brother suggested switching, while the drunkards said – why are we hitting the same Jew all the time, this is not fair and equitable! so, they switched. you get what Eibeshte plans for you.November 11, 2021 11:42 am at 11:42 am #2027124anonymous JewParticipant
Hakatan et al,
Zionism didn’t need a state in order to shmad. Betwern socialism, communism, and a whole slew if isms ( of which zionism was probably the smallest ) Eastern European Jewry was well on it’s way in the late 19th century to abandoning Yiddishkeit.November 11, 2021 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #2027149
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