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May 6, 2012 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #603289Shticky GuyParticipant
Dont you just love it this year? With the first day of counting ????? falling on a Sunday, it is so easy to work out what day of ????? it is. Today (sunday) was 4 weeks and ONE day. Monday is 4 weeks and TWO days. The days correspond with the day of the week, finishing each week on a ??? as the complete week.
So the pasuk fits in exactly in the literal sense as we count 7 weeks, finishing each on a ???, until the end of the 7th ??? we count 50 days…
??? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??????? ????? ????? ???
May 6, 2012 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #879203Sam2ParticipantI’m honestly surprised our calendar isn’t set up to avoid this happening L’afukei the Tzedukim.
May 8, 2012 8:11 am at 8:11 am #879204Shticky GuyParticipantSam2 interesting thought as usual. But its enough already with lo badu pesach. Lo baduz pesach would be real complicated.
May 8, 2012 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #879205nitpickerParticipantlo badu pesach is just a consequence of lo adu rosh.
hasn’t happend like this for 14 years. though, if we are still using the same fixed calendar, it will occur twice in row three years from now.
May 8, 2012 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #879206Geordie613Participant“lo badu pesach is just a consequence of lo adu rosh.”
This is incorrect, because Cheshvan and Kislev are not always malei or chaser. (Maybe Lo adu rosh is a consequence of lo bedu pesach.)
May 8, 2012 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #879207nitpickerParticipantto aaron chaim.
it is correct. the interval between RH and pesach varies.
the interval between pesach and RH can not vary. RH always comes out two days after pesach. IOTW pesach must come out two days BEFORE the FOLLOWING rh.
The controlling rule though, is lo ado rosh, which indirectly controls many other things about the calendar.
You can think of it your way if you like, but the calendar is always calculated by first figuring when RH must come out for this year and when it must come out for next year and working from there.
May 9, 2012 4:00 am at 4:00 am #879208popa_bar_abbaParticipantDont you just love it this year? With the first day of counting ????? falling on a Sunday, it is so easy to work out what day of ????? it is. Today (sunday) was 4 weeks and ONE day. Monday is 4 weeks and TWO days. The days correspond with the day of the week, finishing each week on a ??? as the complete week.
You’ve been counting the wrong day the whole time. The full weeks are on sunday night (monday).
May 9, 2012 4:07 am at 4:07 am #879209147Participantpesach must come out two days BEFORE the FOLLOWING rh. ….. Actually 23 weeks & 2 days before R.H.
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it will occur twice in row three years from now. … Please let me rephrase this:- It shall come 4 out of 5 years from 2015 thru 2019, like this year. ……. It is such a great Kevi’oh, because:- 1) Entire week from Shabbos haGodol to get ready for Pesach, and an entire week after Pesach [in Chutz lo’Oretz] to get set up for 1st Shabbos after Pesach. 2) Can relax Erev Shovu’os afternoon being a Shabbos before very tiring night up; 3) Tammuz 17 & Tisha b’Ov feel somewhat diffused in severity being Nidche. 4) Don’t have to work Erev R.H. nor Erev Sukkos nor Hoshana Rabba, all being Sundays. 5) Short Tachnun on Taanis Esther Shacharis.
May 9, 2012 4:08 am at 4:08 am #879210Sam2ParticipantPBA: Don’t say that. Someone might not realize that you’re not serious.
May 9, 2012 4:12 am at 4:12 am #879211popa_bar_abbaParticipantYeah, you’re probably correct. I was kidding, y’all.
June 11, 2012 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #879212Shticky GuyParticipant?? ???? ????? gives a reason for the date of ??? ???:
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This is unlike either ??? in ??? as to when the ?? began to fall. (The well known contradiction where in ???? ??? ?? ???? ? he says the food they brought with finished on the 15th of Iyar and the mon fell from the 16th, whereas in ??? ?? ???? ?? he writes that it fell on the 15th)
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