Jewish music with english words=Goyish.

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  • #1759349

    LOTR92
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    Discuss.
    Please entertain.
    Public displays of stupidity welcome.

    #1759910

    Yussel
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    I don’t know if it’s goyish but most jewish music produced today is not very good. it’s too loud, too beat-driven, and it’s all from a cookie-cutter mold designed to produce songs for weddings. There’s very little genuine creativity in modern jewish music because (like it’s secular conter-part) it’s designed to be sold as a commercial product to make money.

    #1759981

    mseren
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    #notmymusic

    based on your posts it seems not to be your religion either. What gives?

    #1759984

    Whatsaktome
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    Why would English words make something goyish? As long as the tune is fine i don’t see a problem, and if anything the opposite is true, when the words are in english more ppl will understand which will make the song actually meaningful

    #1760001

    Yserbius123
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    @yussel You are enferring that it was ever different? Sturgeon’s Law. Out of the gazillion Jewish songs that come out every month, a small handful are really good. Those will end up living on, being sung at kumzitzes and chasunas for generations. The rest will be forgotten.

    #1760109

    ubiquitin
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    If its not Yiddish its goyish

    #1760112

    Yussel
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    yserbius12: In the days of The Rabbi’s Sons, Carlebach, etc. the music was not the way it is today. Even the early Mordechai ben David (i remember when we still called him by his name and not MBD) had more “soul” to it than what we hear today.

    #1760124

    akuperma
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    Are sure that the Jewish dialect of “Brooklynese” is still English, or is it a new dialect of English, similar to how the Jewish dialect of German became Yiddish. Note that most Jews considered Yiddish to be be German until World War II. So why isn’t “Judeo-English” a kosher Jewish language, just like Judeo-German and Judeo-Spanish

    Or are you saying Jewish songs have to be in Hebrew, to the exclusion of Yiddish, Ladino, Aramaic, etc.

    #1760127

    Whatsaktome
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    Some singers still have depth to they’re music, take avraham fried for example, most of his music has depth,

    #1760136

    ☕️coffee addict
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    So Hashem Melech is more Jewish than journeys songs?

    #1760133

    So you are going to claim a song like “Siyata Dishmaya” by Miami Boys Choir (1984) is goyish? or Avrohom Fried’s “no jew will be left behind”? or Mordechai Ben David’s “someday we will all be together”?

    #1760233

    👑RebYidd23
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    It’s not a Jewish song if it doesn’t have random Spanish thrown in for no reason.

    #1760309

    Gadolhadorah
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    “…most jewish music produced today is not very good. it’s too loud, too beat-driven, and it’s all from a cookie-cutter mold designed to produce songs for weddings…..

    So Yussel, if we were to redirect Jewish music composers away from their primary focus on chasunahs, you would only worsen the shidduch crisis since without such background noise, even fewer would be willing to incur a lifetime of debt and putting up with their machatonim

    #1760350

    Avi K
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    What about words in Creole German?

    #1760382

    klugeryid
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    Abe Rotenberg ,
    Come on and ride the train.
    As non Jewish as can be. Right?

    I think the title just got confused
    It should say
    Goyish music with Hebrew words = goyish

    #1760383

    klugeryid
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    I actually meant
    “come with me little neshamahleh”
    But I got confused because they are so similar in message
    Obviously according to the op a bad goyish message

    #1761486

    Naftush-2
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    The only truly Jewish music = leining.

    #1761524

    klugeryid
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    Naftush,
    You think the leviim in the bais hamikdash just sang the trop ?

    #1761618

    klugeryid
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    Thank you mods

    #1761634

    LOTR92
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    Yussel,
    I fully agree, Music isn’t just for chasunas. I personally have trouble relaxing to Od Yeshama.

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