- This topic has 23 replies, 10 voices, and was last updated 3 years, 2 months ago by .
-
Posts
-
About the same time later today as most yidden will be gathering in shul for Kol Nidre, a yid named Jared Isaacman from New Jersey will be getting closer to beis din shel maalah aboard the spacecraft Resilience, which will be launched atop a Falcon 9 rocket from NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. It will orbit the Earth for three days at an altitude of 335 miles (about 80 miles higher than the orbit of the International Space Station) at a speed of about 17,150 miles per hour or about five miles per second. Isaacman, is a 38 YO self-made billionaire who purchased all four seats on the spacecraft from Elon Musk’s SpaceX company for an undisclosed amount of money.
While I wish Reb Isaacman and his 3 astronaut chevrah a safe flight and return, I’m hoping for a weather delay in the countdown so they can’t launch until after motzi yom tov tomorrow evening.He probably thought he doesn’t need to keep Yom Kippur if he leaves before then because תורה לא בשמים היא
Maybe the space Jew just wants to keep away from COVID.
And why can he not daven while orbiting the Earth?
He’s supposed to fast 5.3 seconds?
The Chasam Sofer forbids traveling in a steamboat on shabbos as with its movement he violates the positive commandment of shaboson, resting.
@Godalthora, you are always buzy with chillul hashem, this is prima facie chillul hashem when a Jew vilolates YK in public, why glorify it?
> Chasam Sofer forbids traveling in a steamboat on shabbos
Raban Gamliel did, sans the steam engine. What is the difference?
Furthermore, it took weeks to get from Europe to America before Lindbergh – did no follower of Chasam Sofer come here? Maybe there are some conditions for this psak – leisure or when other forms of travel are available?
Give the guys their due – they figured out that it is easier to travel on Yom Kippur than on Sukkos. Drilling holes was not approved. You can say that cold temperature outside is enough of an exemption.
On the other hand, if the whole capsule lives for less than a week, can it qualify as a temporary dwelling?Commonsaychel,
I don’t think Gadolhadorah was glorifying it I thought it was being made fun of
@coffee addict
“Isaacman, is a 38 YO self-made billionaire who purchased all four seats on the spacecraft from Elon Musk’s SpaceX company for an undisclosed amount of money.
While I wish Reb Isaacman and his 3 astronaut chevrah a safe flight and return”
sure sounds like praise to me, would he have made this comment about some none frum eating a pork sandwich on YK?“would he have made this comment about some none frum eating a pork sandwich on YK?“
If it was in the news
Probably
I take exception to the language
“The RBSHO was willing to overlook etc”
Humility and Yiras Shamayim , I think should preclude speaking for the RBSHO on such matters. And the language “overlook” is unseeming.I also take exception to the accolade :
“Extraordinary individual who has accomplished a lot more than you or me in life etc who just so happens to be a non-observant yid”Perilous waters, methinks.
One wonders whether GadolHatorahs yardstick for success is, indeed, the Torah’s….@GH,
1. I am having a great day, I love the fact that yiddin are busy building sukkas standing jowl to jowl picking out arba menim, will dance with the torah. etc etc
2. Nowhere in the post is you write the accomplishment of the passengers other then mentioning that the renter is a self made billionaire and frankly I not busy with peoples publicty stunts.
3. I agree with the last comment of what the yardstick of success is.Dor Haflaga,
“I also note that at the same time we are having this exchange, segments of the frum media are running stories with photos of a former chazar-eating, mechallel shabbos, yarmulkaless politician current being tried for felonies showing up at the kosel with a kipah for kol nidre as if this was some big kiddush hashem (since he was NOT also smoking one of the expensive cigars he was accused of having illegally accepted).”
I am unfamiliar with the story you are referring to, I am pretty sure that a good part of it is fabricated. Even if it was reported, that does not mean it was reported as a kidduch hashem.
However, someone going to daven us a kiddush hashem, regardless of his other shortcomings.
Being mechallel yom kippur befarhesia is a chillul hashem, regardles if the person is a billionaire. And glorifying it as you you continue to do, is also a prime example of a chilul hashem.
A limud zchus is that the gemara brings amoraim that said what would be considered for them a chilul hashem would be even a slight matter, because they are looked up to. I think you may gat a slight slide on your comments because the contrary is true with you.
AAQ,
“Give the guys their due – they figured out that it is easier to travel on Yom Kippur than on Sukkos. Drilling holes was not approved. You can say that cold temperature outside is enough of an exemption.
On the other hand, if the whole capsule lives for less than a week, can it qualify as a temporary dwelling?”While find that a yoitze laderech is patur from Succah, we find no such heter for yom kippur. , you really need to ask better questions.
The Tiferes Yanoson from Rebbi Yonasan Eubshutz explains the dor haflaga, who wanted to build a tower upon which the air is light and from there fly a spaceship to the moon, to escape another flood, as they knew the moon is a place which can be inhabitat.
nisht, you have a point. Except these guys are not really going anywhere, they landed on the same planet they started! Would you be patur min Hasukkah if you decide to run marathon around your town?
Anyway, travelling “hutz laaretz” is definitely taking a new meaning.
@GH, “segments of the frum media are running stories with photos of a former chazar-eating, mechallel shabbos, yarmulkaless politician current being tried for felonies showing up at the kosel with a kipah for kol nidre ”
FYI it was nilah not kolnidrai, and he walked to the kosel and was not michaal YK bfrasyah, and Hashem will always take some teshuah.
PS he has charadi GrandchildrenReb Eliezer, I hope you don’t mind I don’t take your dor haflaga comment literally
> have gone OTD
Read Bibi’s father insightful book about Abarbanel where he concludes that however painful it was for Ab. to miss the upcoming signs of expulsion, at the end, he would probably not be able to save the day anyway against the tide, but his later work encouraged the expelled Jews to find strength to continue. (some of the description parallels times in Bibi’s reign where he could not stop the tide, but persevered anyway ..). So, the family road has a direction.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.