Joe Biden is not the 46th President of the United States of America.

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  • #2056063
    Participant
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    He’s the 45th.

    Count them:

    Washington
    Adams
    Jefferson
    Madison
    Monroe
    Quincy Adams
    Jackson
    Van Buren
    Harrison
    Tyler
    Polk
    Taylor
    Fillmore
    Pierce
    Buchanan
    Lincoln
    Johnson
    Grant
    Hayes
    Garfield
    Arthur
    Cleveland
    Harrison
    Mckinley
    Roosevelt
    Taft
    Wilson
    Harding
    Coolidge
    Hoover
    FDR
    Truman
    Eisenhower
    Kennedy
    LBJ
    Nixon
    Ford
    Carter
    Reagan
    Bush
    Clinton
    Bush
    Obama
    Trump
    Biden

    #2056068
    ujm
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    Grover Cleveland was both the 22nd and the 24th president. He is counted twice since his two terms were non-consecutive.

    Just like Donald Trump can be both the 45th and the 47th president.

    #2056072
    moishekapoieh
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    grover cleveland was elected twice, but his second term was after a different president

    #2056093
    Commonsense1
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    Grover Cleveland is counted twice cause his two terms weren’t consecutive one after they other. 22&24
    #historyclass!

    #2056086
    huju
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    To the OP: You listed Cleveland only once, he served one term after Benjamin Harrison in addition to one term before Benjamin Harrison. He is commonly counted as the 22nd and 24th president. That may or not make sense, but that is how the historians count presidents.

    #2056108
    ujm
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    I always knew that after much hard work of making convincing and historically and factually accurate comments, that I would finally be able to count huju as one of my legends of followers who agree with my posts.

    #2056110
    RebYid613
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    Ya

    #2056119
    TS Baum
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    In reality, he is the 45th person who was elected (if he was actaully elected) president. But when you count them formally, he is 46th, as everyone felt the need to express the answer in their own way, that grover cleveland was president twice non-consecutively.

    #2056142
    Gadolhadorah
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    Well, if you listen to the crazy pillow guy, Trump is still the President so Biden doesn’t even count.
    Better factoid….did you know that originally, the President and VP candidates ran separately
    and the presidential candidate who received the most electoral votes won the presidency; the runner-up became the vice president. In 1796, this meant that the president and the vice president (Adams and Jefferson) were from different parties and had quite different political views to say the least. The adoption of 12th Amendment presumably solved this problem by allowing each party to nominate their “team” for president and vice president.”
    Sadly, as the Trumpkopf discovered, the constitution does NOT guarantee that the VP must be a “team player” with respect to certifying their “reelection”

    #2056140
    Lostspark
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    He’s not regardless.

    #2056207

    The only team-player VP in recent years was Dick Cheney. Pence tried, but had a difficult boss. All others for the last 40 years were used to win elections and then sent to pasture.

    #2056282
    anIsraeliYid
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    TS Baum – you are incorrect that Biden is the 45th person elected president – he is only the 41st.
    Presidents James Tyler, Andrew Johnson, Chester Arthur, and Gerald Ford were never elected president, and in fact, Ford was never even elected vice-president.

    an Israeli Yid

    #2056283
    Gadolhadorah
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    AAQ: In a number of STATES, the Governor and Lt Gov/AG run on separate lines so we frequently have the AG refusing to defend the Governor’s legal position on a new law or executive order the AG of the other party deems “unconstitutional”. We also have the relatively new practice of state legislatures hiring outside counsel to defend previously enacted laws where the incoming governor or AG won’t defend. However, the Lt. Governor in most states is relatively powerless except under weird circumstances.
    For example, in Idaho, there are two right-wing Republican crazies serving as Governor/Lt. Gov. When the Gov (the more “moderate” of the two) went out of town, the acting Governor (aka the Lt. Gov) issued emergency executive orders revoking the real Governor’s executive orders on stuff like masks, etc). When the real governor returned home, he “reversed the reversals”. After two or three rounds of this circus, he simply stopped telling the Ltl Governor when he was heading to the airport.

    #2056324
    Reb Eliezer
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    What about Nelson Rockefeller was never elected Vice President?

    #2056363
    Reb Eliezer
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    When Spiro Agnew resigned, Nixon appointed Gerard Ford as his Vice President. When Richard Nixon resigned, Ford became President and appointed Nelson Rockefeller as his Vice President. When running again, Ford dropped Rockefeller for Bob Dole and lost the election to Jimmy Carter, so Ford was never elected President or Vice President.

    #2056455
    WolfishMusings
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    In reality, he is the 45th person who was elected

    I’m afraid that’s not true. He’s the 45th person to serve in the office.

    The following people were never elected President, yet served in the office:

    John Tyler
    Millard Fillmore
    Andrew Johnson
    Chester A. Arthur
    Gerald Ford

    It should be noted that Ford was never elected to the Presidency or the Vice Presidency.

    The Wolf

    #2056453
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    Participant

    You guys might know history, but your linguistic skills need practice.
    Good thing you frequent the coffee room.
    You may have noticed that this thread (as of now) says “12” in the voices (a reference to “posters”) column, but “15” in the posts. That, even though ujm and GH both have multiple, non-successive posts. Interruption doesn’t turn someone into another person, and it doesn’t turn them into a different president.

    #2056469
    Reb Eliezer
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    If the President sits in consecutive terms in the Oval Office, he is not counted, however, as long as he sits newly (not in the previous term) even not elected is counted.

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