Joint Siyum

I can see it now,

Rabbi Shachter will get up there and talk about how יפה תלמוד תורה עם דרך ארץ and the best learners are the ones that go to work and learn from an artscroll and the Lakewood era would close their ears, then the Chabad Rav will give a speech how the rebbe loves it that everyone is learning Gemara but the real learning comes from chassidus and everyone should go out and get a Tanya and then the Lakewood RY will get up and מלמד אני כל אומניות שבעולם ואיני מלמד בני אלא תורה, and quote something from Rav Shach

That will show achdus!

>>>At the same time, this was clearly a partisan event. No Talmidei Chachamim from other shitot were speaking

Not really true. Rabbi Yisroel Meir Lau spoke at the Siyum Hashas before that one. As did others who did not share Aguda haskafa

>>>Maybe if those who agree with the idea of having a joint siyum with Talmidei Chachamim speakers from several shitot (from YU, for example – R Schachter, R Willig, R Lebovitz, maybe also Chabad, Israeli groups…)

Firstly If R Schachter, R Willig, or R Lebovitz would be asked we all know that it would be spun as tacit endorsement of YU haskafa. The Siyum Hashas certainly does not need to turned into a controversial event. They do sit on the dais so it’s not like they are excluded from the event. Secondly when those three speak it is usually to a smaller crowd than then when those who speak at the Siyum Hashas do. So in terms of bringing attendees the ones who do speak are simply better choices. As far as Chabad goes putting everything else about Chabad aside why on Earth would they ask a representative of a group that does not learn Daf Yomi, let alone promote it, to speak?

Does it bother you why they don’t ask anyone from Satmar to speak or is that something you understand? (Satmar opposes Daf Yomi being a mass daily Limmud )

The Chareidi world doesn’t recognize the YU or modern Chabad shita as fully valid representations of Toras Hashem. They see it as a deviation from Mesoras Yisroel. That being the case, it would be inappropriate to recognize a leader of either group with a public speech to the Chareidi tzibbur. By the way, when’s the last time Chabad or YU invited a Chareidi Gadol to deliver a major speech to their respective community?

from archives of The Jewish Press
. The Eighth Siyum HaShas was held Sunday, November 14, 1982, in New York’s Felt Forum, where 10,000 people assembled in the presence, and with the participation of, gedolei haTorah, to complete Shas, studying the last folio of Tractate Niddah and then starting the next daf yomi cycle by studying the first mishnah in Tractate Berachos.

The Torah personalities participating in the program were the late Bluzhever Rebbe, Rabbi Yisroel Spira, zt”l, who said that limud daf yomi serves as a link to the nearly decimated Polish Jewry; Rabbi Shimon Schwab, zt”l, rav of K’hal Adath Jeshurun in Washington Heights, NY; Rabbi Mordechai Gifter, zt”l, Rosh Hayeshiva Telshe (Wickliffe, Ohio), who referred to daf yomi as the hatzalah of Klal Yisrael; the Sanz-Klausenberger Rebbe, Rabbi Yekusiel Yehuda Halberstam, zt”l, who delivered the hadran (completion) of Shas; and Rabbi Yaakov Kaminetzky, the patriarchal rosh yeshiva of Mesivta Torah Vodaath, who began the ninth cycle of daf yomi by reading the first mishnah in Berachos.

The program concluded with Cantor David Wedyger’s recitation of Kel Malei for all the kedoshim brutally murdered by the Nazi beasts during the Holocaust. He then led the singing of “Ani Ma’amin.”

The Jewish Press also reported on the new innovation by Rabbi Eli Teitelbaum, zt”l, the Dial-a-Daf program, a telephone subscription service that became a very popular aid for daf yomi learners.

A portion of the crowd from the 1990 siyum at Madison Square Garden, in the May 10, 1990 issue of The Jewish Press. (Photo by Sender Schwartz UMI)
In 1990, with an even larger crowd anticipated, the venue was changed to the Madison Square Garden Arena in Manhattan. Indeed, on April 26, 1990, 20,000 people gathered for an event that Rabbi Chazkel Besser, zt”l, described as reminiscent of ma’amad Har Sinai.

Torah personalities participating in this program were the rav of New Square, Rabbi Moshe Neuschloss; the Novominsker Rebbe, Rabbi Yaakov Perlow; Rabbi Shimon Schwab, one of the few to speak in English; Rabbi Yosef Harari-Raful, Rosh Yeshivat Ateret Torah (representing the ever-growing Sephardic community); the Phladelphia rosh yeshiva, Rabbi Elyah Svei, zt”l; Rabbi Osher Greenfeld, rav and rosh kollel, Imrei Chaim Vizhnitz in Montreal; Rabbi Aharon D. Dunner, dayan of Hisachdus Ha’kehillos in London; Rabbi Elyah Fischer, rosh kollel of Gur; and Rabbi Zvi Spira, Bluzhever Rebbe.

AAQ: There’s absolutely nothing reductio ad absurdum about either including both OO and MO (or excluding OO and MO).

What would be reductio ad absurdum is to advocate to include only one, but exclude the other, between OO and MO.

Aaq,

Not sure why you called me common, maybe it was an autocorrect like Lakewood era (should have been Lakewooders)

And majority opinion doesn’t work here because he’s last and אחרון אחרון חביב

But seriously, kollel avreichim probably wouldn’t be there because daf yomi is only for baalei batim

But you get the gist of it

In other words what haimy said