July 28, 2011 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #598286
The Baba Sali’s grandson was stabbed multiple times and he’s dead. BD”EJuly 28, 2011 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #792352mikehall12382Member
This is getting scary…July 29, 2011 12:05 am at 12:05 am #792353aries2756Participant
B”DE, what a shock? The murderer was once his gabai!July 29, 2011 12:30 am at 12:30 am #792354mustangriderMember
i dont know about all of u but i think this is terrifying!!!!
Rav Abuhatzeira is the 5th gadol to pass away in a just a few weeks! he is also the second Jew MURDERED in a few weeks by a fellow Jew!July 29, 2011 12:33 am at 12:33 am #792355WolfishMusingsParticipant
Baruch Dayan HaEmes.
The WolfJuly 29, 2011 1:19 am at 1:19 am #792356ShrekMember
shudder.July 29, 2011 1:20 am at 1:20 am #792357mikehall12382Member
The fact that Yids are committing these crimes is terrifying…in all my life I can’t recall 2 horrific murders by Jews, whose victims were tzadics..within weeks of each otherJuly 29, 2011 1:32 am at 1:32 am #792358ItcheSrulikMember
Baruch Dayan Ha’emes.
mustangrider: Those are only the ones we know about. Plenty could have happened that didn’t make the news. Now there’s a scary thought.July 29, 2011 2:46 am at 2:46 am #792359a maminParticipant
WAKE UP KLAL YISROEL!!! How many tragedies do we need to wake us up?????July 29, 2011 2:55 am at 2:55 am #792360charliehallParticipant
Baruch Dayan HaEmet.
Any idea of a suspect or a motive.July 29, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #792361bortezomibParticipant
I wish a Gadol would stand up and tell us- what exactly it is that we need to fix! Baruch Dayan Haemes!July 29, 2011 2:58 am at 2:58 am #792362am yisrael chaiParticipant
The suspect has already been arrested; you can get further info on the NEWS right here on YWN.July 29, 2011 3:11 am at 3:11 am #792363jewishnessParticipant
Only G-d knows for certain why these kinds of things are happening.
However, that is not an excuse for us not to try and give reasons so that we can be aware of our issues and work on them.
It seems to me that the study of ethics can remedy in part all of these issues. There needs to be an upward thrust of fear of Heaven.
May G-d protect his people.July 29, 2011 3:44 am at 3:44 am #792364oomisParticipant
B”DhE. This is beyond frightening. To have such horrific things happening especially at this time of year is very sobering. Hashem Yeracheim.July 29, 2011 3:59 am at 3:59 am #792365RABBAIMParticipant
Now I ask us all…….. should we be frivolously whiling away out time “unwinding ” in chat rooms, or get the message that maybe we can do better with the opportunity Hashem is giving us every minute??
Ironic that this topic of murder s preceded by one who opened a discussion about going to the movies. Maybe we need to worry about the movie we are currently scripting, writing and star acting in…………
Batala is still a waste ………July 29, 2011 4:19 am at 4:19 am #792366WIYMember
“It seems to me that the study of ethics can remedy in part a issues. There needs to be an upward thrust of fear of Heave May G-d protect his people.”
Please see the thread I startedJuly 29, 2011 5:47 am at 5:47 am #792367quark2Member
BD”E it is truly a tragedy. The neshamah should rise to atzilus.July 29, 2011 7:35 am at 7:35 am #792368613nisimParticipant
The murderer is a rebbe in a cheder in Elad. He claims that his reason for doing it is that it says that before Moshiach ben Dovid comes, Moshiach ben Yosef has to die and he decided that Rabi Elazar was Moshiach ben Yosef. He was trying to expedite the process.July 29, 2011 9:11 am at 9:11 am #792369on the ballParticipant
When Rav Koppelman, Rav Lefkowitz and Rav Stein Zichronom Livrocha were niftar within days of each other a few weeks ago, some took it as a sign that things are not right. Others brushed it off as all three were over 100 years old.
Could this latest tragedy, as well as being a general wake up call be a direct rebuttal to the latter response?July 29, 2011 11:40 am at 11:40 am #792370MichaelCMember
A Kabbalist- a holy Kabbalist–i’m in tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mourn intensely fellow Jews, take this to heart, do Teshuva.
As i heard recently in a Shiur these terrible things are happening before Moshiach, never have we seen such evil from our own people.
A young child being killed by a member of out nation, Rabbanim getting arrested in Isreal, Milah being proposed to be banned, this is Ikva De Meshicha. We must keep Emunah!, and hopefully we can get through this, and all witness Geula Sheleima!July 29, 2011 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #792372WIYMember
This guy can actually get away with an insanity plea…July 29, 2011 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #792373HealthParticipant
Jewishness – Along with evil speech always goes Sinas Chinum!July 29, 2011 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #792374
The murderer is a rebbe in a cheder in Elad. He claims that his reason for doing it is that it says that before Moshiach ben Dovid comes, Moshiach ben Yosef has to die and he decided that Rabi Elazar was Moshiach ben Yosef. He was trying to expedite the process.July 29, 2011 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #792375RABBAIMParticipant
Each of us knows in the depths of our hearts ways in which we do not live “with the presence of the shechina” unless we cannot be honest with self, each knows ways we can improve. Instead of looking to gedolim to have ruach hakodesh and tell us what we need to fix and then have it part of chat room chatter about how do they know and who said, let each person pick one way he/she will bring self closer to shechina and shechina closer to the world.July 30, 2011 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #792376skiaddictMember
i heard someone say that now in israel, lives are cheap, soldiers die all the time, there is constant war and casualties, and he linked it to this weeks parsha that there were same amount of orei miklot on both sides of the yarden, because the ones out of eretz yisrael were much more lenient with killing ppl, so they were also careless with leavving things around that will cause accidental death, because they didnt value human lives, (hope i got that right) so too in israel lives are cheap, and ppl dont think too much about murdering others…July 31, 2011 3:57 am at 3:57 am #792377candy613Member
I know we don’t know the exact reason for the happenings in this world, I just wanted to share something that I heard, that was so true, and really was just very special. Our gedolim we have in this world no matter how far away, are the pillars that hold our world up! We need to understand and remind ourselves of this at all times. When 3 gedolim left our world at the same time so suddenly, yes, some of us were shocked at the moment, but life went on as usual. They are far from us (at least some of us) and we dont understand their worth completely, and the shmirah they give to the world! Now that they are gone, we lost that shmirah that they were supporting the world with! The world is falling fast without them! The disgusting and inhumane murderers that took place by fellow jews, are far from natural! we need to understand how great of a loss these gedolim were to our world, and always keep ourselves on track knowing and respecting our gedolim keeping to their takanos no matter how strange or harsh they sound! Doing this will hopefully help keep the world supported, and keep such horrible and unnatural things from happening!
Sorry so long this just really helped me put this into perspective…. Hope it can help others!July 31, 2011 4:03 am at 4:03 am #792378OfcourseMember
ovadia The murderer is a rebbe in a cheder in Elad. He claims that his reason for doing it is that it says that before Moshiach ben Dovid comes, Moshiach ben Yosef has to die and he decided that Rabi Elazar was Moshiach ben Yosef. He was trying to expedite the process.
I read that he was unhappy with R’ Elazar’s advice regarding his marriage.
Im wondering whether what I read that he had negative involvement with two seventeen year old girls, has any truth.July 31, 2011 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #792379mesorahMember
Why do we need anyone telling us what we need to change, dosent EVERYONE have quiet a bit which they know on their own that has to be changed?!?!?!
Why are we always looking for deals & shortcuts?!?!?!August 1, 2011 4:18 am at 4:18 am #792380
Rabbi Shlomo Amar was at a bris and he saw the Mohel doing something incorrectly so he told him nicely–the mohel screamed at him: Who are you to tell me what to do!
We see that in this generation there is no respect so yidden strengthen your respect and we will merirt in the geula shelima quickly!!
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