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  • #595263
    canine
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    What’s the chilik between a kasha and a shaila?

    #743620
    TheGoq
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    ones made from buckwheat otay!!!!

    #743621
    Shticky Guy
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    What you ask your rav is a shaila. A kasha (or kushya) is something you may have on a piece of gemara.

    #743622
    WolfishMusings
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    A kasha is a question that is meant to refute something. A shaila is an inquiry into an unknown.

    Example:

    Shaila: What’s the din regarding Cholov Yisroel?

    Kahsa: How could you say that? Didn’t you agree with Posek X when he said Y?

    The Wolf

    #743623
    aries2756
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    I believe a “kasha” is stam a question of curiosity or a nagging issue that one wants clarity or an opinion on. A shaila is something you are looking for a psak halacha on.

    #743624
    Pashuteh Yid
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    Wolf is right. A kasha is an attack question. A shaila is a request for information.

    #743625
    me too
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    ??? Translates as hard a Kushiya is a query about a dificulty

    ???? translates as Question

    #743626
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    ones made from buckwheat otay!!!!

    Goq, you little rascal!

    #743627
    canine
    Member

    You give a teretz to a kasha or to a shaila?

    #743628
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Literally, kasha means difficulty. Hence, Shticky Guy, Wolf, and Pashutateh Yid are correct. I would explain it by saying that it refers to an inconsistency; the statement might be “difficult” because it contradicts a different statement made by the same person, or made by someone of greater authority, or logically inconsistent. A shaila is a query,often for psak halacha, but not necessarily.

    #743629
    always here
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    Goq~ “ones made from buckwheat otay!!!!” tooooo funny! 😀

    #743630
    ☕️coffee addict
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    my take is that kasha is in Learning (not for halacha), shaila is in Halacha

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #743631
    WolfishMusings
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    You give a teretz to a kasha or to a shaila?

    Answer to a kasha = teretz

    Answer to a shaila = teshuva.

    The Wolf

    #743632
    TheGoq
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    ty daas, always , your both always a good audience

    #743633
    Mayan_Dvash
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    In a more broad sense, a Shaila can be answered from a small subset of responses (Yes/No, Mutar/Asur, etc. like a multiple choice question). A Kasha’s response is more open ended (like an essay question).

    e.g.

    Rebbi, is it ok to eat before davening? –> Shaila

    Why? –> Kasha

    #743634
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Answer to a shaila = teshuva.

    That’s what I wanted to say, you beat me to it. Shu”t!

    #743635
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Why? –> Kasha

    IMO, Why? –> shaila (usually).

    #743636
    WolfishMusings
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    I actually learned the distinction very early on. My ninth grade rebbe actually had us break down the Gemara we were learning into statements, and label the “type” of statement that was being made.

    Among the statement types were: kasha, teretz, shaila, t’shuva, etc. Because of that exercise, I learned the difference at a very early age.

    The Wolf

    #743637
    WolfishMusings
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    Why? –> Kasha

    I’m not sure that I agree with that. I think a “why” question could also be a shaila.

    In the exercise I mentioned above, the question “m’nah hani mili” (which, in essence boils down to “why”) was categorized as a shaila since it was an inquiry, and not an attempt at refutation.

    The Wolf

    #743638
    HaLeiVi
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    The reason they are used only in that context, seems to be that Shaala means to ask. Its verb, Sho’al, can be used as, borrowed. Kasha, is a statement; you are stating that something is wrong, or not smooth.

    #743639
    HaLeiVi
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    And on the same token, Tshuva, just means a response, while Terutz means to straighten out.

    #743640
    oomis
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    Both are questions. A shaila is a question of a halacha that one needs to know about something that directly affects a person (is it kosher or traif if a drop of milk fell into the cholent pot). A kasha is a question to help understand material one has learned and which psoes some difficulty or begs another question, i.e., So if Rav said this, why does Abayei say that?).

    #743641
    squeak
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    OP-

    Why do you ask- are you planning to make “shaila” your next screen name? 🙂

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