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February 19, 2011 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #595139TumsMember
As we all probably know, one is required to give kavod for a Kohen. If a Kohen comes into the room, one is to stand up for a him. And if there is no seats, offer him yours.
Is this principle applicable to any Kohen over Bar Mitzvah? Only to a married Kohen? Obviously if your brother-in-law is a Kohen you would provide him this kavod. But what if your son-in-law is a Kohen? What if the Kohen involved is 50 years your junior? What are the parameters involved?
February 20, 2011 12:47 am at 12:47 am #898093shuliParticipantall i know is that my father is a cohen and i respect him anyway…
February 20, 2011 2:53 am at 2:53 am #898094ItcheSrulikMemberMost poskim hold it only applies to a kohen over bar mitzvah. The rest of the issues you raised do not remove the chiyuv.
February 20, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #898095aries2756ParticipantIt is interesting that this question is even asked. A Kohain, is a Kohain what would age have to do with it.
February 20, 2011 3:18 am at 3:18 am #898096TumsMemberItcheSrulik: So a father-in-law must stand up for his Kohen son-in-law?
February 20, 2011 3:29 am at 3:29 am #898097TumsMemberAnd what about a 65 year old man for a 13 year old Kohen?
February 20, 2011 3:45 am at 3:45 am #898098ItcheSrulikMemberAs usual, their are halachos of interactions between two people who have to show kavod for each other. Why would it be any different than if his son-in-law were a talmid chacham?
February 20, 2011 3:55 am at 3:55 am #898099truth be toldMemberI know we’re supposed to honor and respect a Kohain. About standing up though, is that the halocha? I was unaware we were supposed to stand up for a kohain. Anyone have a source?
February 20, 2011 4:15 am at 4:15 am #898100deiyezoogerMemberHonoring a kohain has different halachas then honoring parents, elders, or talmudei chachamim. You dont have to stand up for a kohain but you have to let him first to wash his hands or give him the first aliya.
February 20, 2011 4:18 am at 4:18 am #898101ItcheSrulikMemberAFAIK we don’t have to stand up for a kohen but we do have to serve him first, let him speak first, etc.
February 20, 2011 4:34 am at 4:34 am #898102TumsMemberI believe you do have to stand up for a Kohen just like you have to stand up for a Talmid Chochom and your parents.
February 20, 2011 5:04 am at 5:04 am #898103truth be toldMemberTums: Do you have a source?
February 20, 2011 6:01 am at 6:01 am #898104commonsenseParticipantHow about a mother for her kohanim sons?
February 20, 2011 6:12 am at 6:12 am #898105shlishiMemberi learnt once that kohanim are usually angrier than most people. i forgot the reason why.
February 20, 2011 6:14 am at 6:14 am #898106truth be toldMemberHow about a mother for her kohanim sons?
February 20, 2011 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #898108deiyezoogerMemberyes K-bear Monsey is so inclusive that even those wecos find there place here, but to say the truth I know one of them who lost his job being a rebbi in a very ultra right wing school because of the bad PR it bought them.
February 20, 2011 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #898109oomisParticipantThere is no Dibra in the Torah that says “Kabeid es avicha v’es imecha, CHUTZ m’asher atah kohein.” So I would guess that a kohein must have both kovod and morah for his mother.
February 20, 2011 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #898110cantoresqMemberI’m a kohen. If that is the only reason one can have for giving me any sort of kavod, I’m in big trouble.
February 20, 2011 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #898111oomisParticipantCantoresq: A chazzan AND a Kohein. We are related.
February 21, 2011 12:00 am at 12:00 am #898112zaidy78ParticipantWhere do you get that you have to stand for a kohen??
Rashi and almost everywhere in chazal say that v’kidashto (to kovod but kodosh) is to give a Kohen the first aliya and and the honor of benching when there is a zimun.
Standing is for a godol or parent.
February 21, 2011 1:01 am at 1:01 am #898113ItcheSrulikMemberIt also includes giving him first choice in many other situations. The fact that people don’t do it is — to use the popular parlance — no rayah.
February 21, 2011 1:29 am at 1:29 am #898114canineMemberWhere do you get you have to stand for a godol or parent?
Where do you get a Kohein is different?
February 21, 2011 2:01 am at 2:01 am #898115truth be toldMemberWhere do you get you have to stand for a godol or parent?
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Since when is a Kohen included? There is a different place where the Torah tells us to mekadesh a Kohain
February 21, 2011 2:26 am at 2:26 am #898116ItcheSrulikMemberThe halacha of v’kidashto is basically interpreted as placing the kohen “on a pedestal.” Though I haven’t seen it inside as an example, why can’t one be m’kayem the mitzvah by standing up for a kohen?
September 30, 2012 6:55 am at 6:55 am #898117Daniel RosenMember“It also includes giving him first choice in many other situations. The fact that people don’t do it is — to use the popular parlance — no rayah.”
That is not true, the Magen Avraham noticed it was the minhag where he was and most other places the people were not giving kohanim kedimah in such situations. He says it is because kohanim today do not have yichus like they used to and therefor they are not entitled to such honors.
There is a great shiur on YU you can listen to about this. just type in yichus of kohanim today.
see also kohen.co.uk
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