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January 7, 2013 2:56 am at 2:56 am #607719japanlover100Member
what is the diff if a guy chooses to wear a velvet yarmulke vs a knitted or colored yarmulke?
January 7, 2013 4:17 am at 4:17 am #918043CuriosityParticipantTroll
January 7, 2013 4:23 am at 4:23 am #918044chinesefoodMemberI think that is a very shallow question. What really matters is the kind of boy beneath the yarmulke. We should not be judging others on their externals. Especially when it comes to a mitzvah. Be happy he is wearing a yarmulke.
January 7, 2013 7:41 am at 7:41 am #918045mewhoParticipantyes, pay more attention to the person rather than the way they dress. that is all superficial. its the person that counts
January 7, 2013 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #918046locaMemberIf I were a guy Id wear a blue velvet yarmulke instead of black. Just because. 🙂
January 7, 2013 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #918047akupermaParticipantIt’s a matter of fashion, not halacha. As with all fashions, there is a tremendous sociological and sometimes political issue. However there is no halachic significance – regardless of style or fabric – they all meet the requirements for men to cover their heads.
January 7, 2013 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #918048snowbunny3318MemberMods, can we get a “Like” button for these posts? I want to “like” this. Or would that be like making this website to much like Facebook. Maybe we can have an “Ahava” button instead.
January 7, 2013 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #918050KovodHabriyosMemberIs there even a halachic obligation to wear a kippa altogether? I don’t think so. Sephardim traditionally didn’t wear a kippa other than for prayers.
January 7, 2013 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #918051ToiParticipantsamurai…hiya!
January 8, 2013 12:09 am at 12:09 am #918052OneOfManyParticipantSamurai don’t ever go hiya…
January 8, 2013 1:08 am at 1:08 am #918053koillel101Memberu wear whatever your family wears. don’t make a issue out of it. or else just wear what u feel comfortable in but if you change what u had worn all along, be prepared to get comments from ppl.
January 8, 2013 2:27 am at 2:27 am #918054gornitMemberI think it depends on the situation and the context. If a bochur in Brisk or the Mirr or Stamar walks in with a knitted kipah, he is making a statement. calling for attention, rebelling or crying for help (he may also be suffering from mental health problems. I compare this to a BY girl who suddenly streaks her hair pink and purple.
On the other hand, some yidden should be applauded for wearing ANY yarmuka at all.
So really it depends who is under the kipah to know if the hat fits.
January 8, 2013 3:49 am at 3:49 am #918055shininaMemberit makes a statement
January 8, 2013 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #918056CuriosityParticipantI was in a large Yeshiva where everyone wore velvet, and I wore knitted because I wasn’t about to go buy a new kipa just because everyone else was doing it. I wasn’t rebelling, making a statement, or calling out for help. I just did my own thing and didn’t really care to be a bit different. I really don’t see the big deal… I did well there and nobody even seemed to notice my kipa. People who need to make drama and look down on others will make drama and look down on others, whether it be for kipa material, a chumra that others don’t keep, or any other reason they can find. To propose I suffer from mental health problems for not caring what you think… well let’s just say it’s not hard to find a sibah to flash your arrogance.
January 8, 2013 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #918058gornitMemberI suppose if you wanted to, you could wear an orange suit and white shoes but don’t be surprised if others thought that you are “interesting”.
January 8, 2013 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #918059rebdonielMemberI don’t need to go into the politics of yarmulkes.
I know rabbis who learned under Rav Weiss haLivni who wear exclusively white shirts and black velvet size 8 yarmulkes, and I know those who have semicha from R’ Wozner in Monsey who wear kippot serugot.
As for me, I usually wear black suede or velvet, although occasionally, will wear a seruga. Also, if I daven in a black hat shul on Shabbos/Y”T or go to a Litvish or Hasidishe wedding or simcha, I will wear a hat in deference to the customs of these milieus. Tzitzit, I usually wear out, since this is more in line with the purpose of the mitzva, per the Mishna Berura, although those who tuck them in are acting properly, also.
January 8, 2013 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #918060CuriosityParticipantI suppose you could, but that statement has absolutely no relevance to this conversation.
January 9, 2013 12:08 am at 12:08 am #918061gornitMemberCuriosity, I noticed you called me arrogant, you also called the OP a troll. Name calling is a form of bullying. It is infantile and symptomatic of underlying issues. Leading me to suspect that the real issue is with the one wearing the yarmulka.
January 9, 2013 1:24 am at 1:24 am #918062akupermaParticipantKovodHabriyos: Kippas only became popular recently. Before that people tended to wear hats more. One should note that until recently, goyim (particularly scholars) would wear a skullcap. In a pre-modern environment when many goyim wore skullcaps, and most goyim wore hats – the kippah didn’t stand out.
January 9, 2013 6:41 am at 6:41 am #918063CuriosityParticipantGornit, I still believe the OP is a troll. If you click on his name you will notice this is his first post. What are the odds it would be about a topic that is so basic and guaranteed to be divisive? It’s basically a dinner bell calling for all of those who feel a need to look down on others that they perceive as being less holy to come and spew their crooked views.
I was calling you arrogant because you feel you have the authority and the credentials to diagnose someone you have never met as suffering from a mental health problem simply because they don’t ascribe to your (very extreme) line of reasoning. If that’s not arrogant, I’m not sure what is. I’m not going to sit here and bicker with you, if you want to label members of klall Yisrael as being mentally unhealthy because they don’t care about those in the klall who are overly judgmental, I guess that’s your right. It’s a free country, after all… have at it. I apologize if I sounded overly harsh, but if there’s one thing that gets to me it’s people who think they have a right to dan other Jews who aren’t even doing anything wrong – whether they judge them publicly or in their hearts. It stems from a severe lack of humility, and it’s extremely obnoxious and counterproductive. It’s the ugly side of frumkeit that repels people away from identifying with frum communities and Chareidim.
January 9, 2013 10:20 am at 10:20 am #918064just my hapenceParticipantakuperma –
One should note that until recently, goyim (particularly scholars) would wear a skullcap.
If by this you mean Catholic Priests, perhaps. If not then I’m afraid you’re simply making stuff up.
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