July 15, 2018 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1558193
Not on the side of peta just asking. What does the Torah say regarding using animal fur for ones benefit such as coats and the like, even if it is only for fashion and not actual protection from the elements? Do they really kill the animal in an inhumane manner or skin it while it is still alive so that the product is “better”, wouldn’t this clearly be a tzaar baaeli chaim? Are you supporting this practice by purchasing these goods? We even try to minimize the suffering of animals which we eat for sustenance, Al achas Kama shouldn’t they not suffer when killed for human pleasure?July 16, 2018 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm #1558624
weather too hot for this topic?July 16, 2018 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #1558639🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
icemelter- animals are not skinned alive as that would decrease quality of fur, not improve it. PETA commissioned a video of an animal being skinned alive in order to have graphic footage to get people to stop buying fur products. In actuality animals are usually killed using carbon dioxide for a quick death without the animal fighting back in any way at all. They don’t want the fur getting damaged.July 16, 2018 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #1558664
There are many fruits that are grafted from other fruits which is also against torah law. Do you have a problem supporting those Farms?July 16, 2018 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #1559023
-Is it problematic to use fur for ones own pleasure and benefit especially since the animals are killed solely for that purpose? I mean how many people eat mink or wolf meat or almost all furry animals which arent cows?
Yitzchokm”There are many fruits that are grafted from other fruits which is also against torah law. Do you have a problem supporting those Farms?”
-If its a problem then yes.July 16, 2018 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #1559282
No. It’s not our problem. According to most, Tb”h is מדרבנןJuly 16, 2018 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1559300
Yitzchokm-anyway thats not the same thing. Just because a farm might graft fruits doesnt mean you cant buy regular fruit from them if you dont want to support grafting.
The topic I brought up was actually buying fur, not buying a separate product from a fur company.July 16, 2018 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #1559309Jersey JewParticipant
icemelter, if you dont want to support something that is your headache. Halacha allows us to kill animals for fur or any other use even if not for food. The Gemora in Chulin talks about that including killing a bird because you need the blood for something. You could kill animals for that.
As far as grafting, that is assur for YOU to DO, but there is no issur on you to buy klayim fruit. From what I understand many species of fruits we have nowadays began as klayim.
As far as peta yemach sh’mom v’zichrom, those mishiguim are against killing ALL animals no matter what. They play with videos to make them look bad or even worse. They have a Box Seat awaiting them in gehennim.July 17, 2018 12:08 am at 12:08 am #1559392
Who says theres an issue of Tb”h for goyim? As noted, according to most, the whole issur is מדרבנן.
I don’t remember exactly, but I’m pretty sure that grafting is prohibited for them as well.July 18, 2018 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1561326☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
I’m pretty sure that grafting is prohibited for them as well.
It’s not one of the 7 mitzvos b’nei Noach…
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