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Is it possible for there to be Kosher Movies? If no, would a Hebrew language be different? What about watching selected clips from Non-Jewish movies or TV shows?(like Jewlarious).If you still say no, what is your opinion on the “Tisha B’av Event” videos?
guy-ocho,
It’s all about content. There is nothing inherently wrong about showing pictures at the rate of 30 frames per second.
The Wolf
I agree with wolf…there are a lot of options, all depends on what you are comfortable with..plenty of frum people have TV’s they just hide them in air conditioning boxes when they bring them home from the stores as not to arouse their neighbours susbitions :)…just joking!
“There is nothing inherently wrong about showing pictures at the rate of 30 frames per second”
Wolf: do you in fact think that ppl who don’t watch TV and/or movies do it cuz the pics are going at the rate of 30 frames per second?
Who shows pictures at 30fps? NTSC is 24fps and pal is something else, but neither of them are 30.
when i was in sem i had a rabbi who was known as the “matrix rabbi” he taught the beauty of the world of Hashem and stuff thru movies. He’d skip things irrelevant but he was amazing!
Wolf: do you in fact think that ppl who don’t watch TV and/or movies do it cuz the pics are going at the rate of 30 frames per second?
No, of course not. They don’t do it because they object to the content. They’d have no problem watching a video recording of a shiur. That was my point — no one has an absolute blanket ban on video/TV. It’s only the content.
The Wolf
yogibooboo: my wife was in that class. She told me she loved it!
Who shows pictures at 30fps? NTSC is 24fps and pal is something else, but neither of them are 30.
I thought films were shown at 30fps, but I could be wrong.
The Wolf
Paper Clips is an amazing movie that everyone should see.
like everyting else there is the good and bad…their are tone of good clean films TV shows etc. out there that one can enjoy…Princess Bride is a great film!
from wikipedia:
“There are currently (2011) three main frame rate standards in the TV and movie-making business: 24p, 25p, and 30p. However there are many variations on these as well as newer emerging standards.”
guy-ocho – That must have been a long time ago, only flat screens now. (unless you were getting a flat AC!)
Who shows pictures at 30fps? NTSC is 24fps and pal is something else, but neither of them are 30.
Film is normally 23.976 FPS but there are some systems that use 24 FPS
PAL is 25 FPS
NTSC is 29.97 FPS
ATSC supports all of the above and adds 30, 50, 59.94, and 60 FPS
to watch a movie = big no no!! i dont think there is a single movie out there that is appropriate..no matter which age they say its for.. even for little kids.. they always put something in it.. and as for jewish movies like tisha ba av movies.. those are fine b/c they are produced by G-d fearing jews who want to help klal yisroel.. there is nothing inappropriate in those..
Feif un=what semionary??
you wanna know whats clean?? Baby Einstein! and the Magic School Bus
Really? But there are guurrrls in the Magic School Bus!! </sarcasm>
Edit: Thanks for the correction, Bezalel.
Cocacola- my kids watch Uncle Moishy. Terrible, huh?
“Cocacola- my kids watch Uncle Moishy. Terrible, huh?”
I think the discussion is about secular movies, isn’t it?
If they are torah based- like tisha B’av videos, there’s nothing wrong, in fact Hashem probably wants us to use technology to further K’vod Shamayim in this world. But any regular movie, well, where do you draw the line between what’s ‘clean’ and what’s not. We all know it’s the Yetzer Hara telling us that it is ok. If you would be comfortable watching it next to Horav Elyashiv Shlita, then it’s ok.
you guys are arguing about apples and oranges. it depends who you are, and in which direction are you going. for kids who grow up in an environment where they don’t watch entertainment videos at all, who learn almost their whole day, even an uncle moishy video may not be so good for them. (even if that video is okay, will want to watch others, and very, very few would be appropriate for them – so why even start up the yetzer hora and show them that these things are available to them?) for others, cleaner movies than would otherwise watch is a step up.
If you want to see a kosher movie there is a whole list of them here:http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/Time/KosherMovies.asp
Who shows pictures at 30fps? NTSC is 24fps and pal is something else, but neither of them are 30.
Film is normally 23.976 FPS but there are some systems that use 24 FPS
PAL is 25 FPS
NTSC is 29.97 FPS
ATSC supports all of the above and adds 30, 50, 59.94, and 60 FPS
At those other speeds, is there something inherently wrong? 🙂
“I dont think there is a single movie out there that is appropriate..”
Thats a pretty big generalization…There are plenty of good kosher movies out there
I saw True Grit its a very clean movie yes there is some violence but nothing else wrong
smartcookie: yes i was talking abt goyish movies.. of course there is an exception to every rule.. but i think that most movies out there are innapropriate.. and once a kid starts off watching movies.. do you honestly think he/she is gonna stop?
Yogi, Feif, is this the fellow who lost some of his fingers in a machine related accident when he was younger? If so he was the cook at my Yeshiva. I heard he also taught classes on the matrix as it relates to Torah.
I think its a very personall thing.. There r many different ppl and many different “levels” of kosher and there r different “levels” of what u personally would feel appropriate to ingest into ur being.. there r also sensitivities that some ppl have and some ppl dont.. I dont think this topic can really be generalized into a kosher-yes or no kinda question. But I definately think its something everyone should think deeply and honestly about because I believe its something unhealthy for a jew..
and guy- try?? Ill take u anytime, anywhere 🙂
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i dont think there is a single movie out there that is appropriate..no matter which age they say its for.. even for little kids.. they always put something in it..
and later (again, emphasis mine)
of course there is an exception to every rule.. but i think that most movies out there are innapropriate
Backtrack much?
and once a kid starts off watching movies.. do you honestly think he/she is gonna stop?
It depends on the age of the kid, of course.
A young kid shouldn’t be watching anything without their parents’ permission. But as a kid gets older, you have to allow him/her more freedom.
Part of the parenting process is not just shielding your kid from inappropriate things, but also giving them the tools to be able to discern for themselves if they should be watching/listening to/reading something. If you’re going to take the blanket approach and say “no” all the time, then your kids are never going to learn this appropriate skill — and if you think they’re not going to at least attempt to watch something once either when they become teenagers or adults, then you’re sadly mistaken.
I’m not necessarily advocating that you show you’re kids movies — but what I am saying is that if you want them to be able to learn to discern for themselves what is right and what is wrong, you’re going to have to educate them *with examples*.
Might they make a mistake at some point even if you try to train them? Certainly… but that’s a part of the maturation process — we learn from our mistakes most of all.
On a side point, I try to show my kids that there are plenty of movies out there that are pretty clean and fun. I’m pretty sure that my kids are the only kids in their classes who have seen such classics as Bringing Up Baby, It Happened One Night (despite the risque title, it’s a very clean movie), To Sir With Love, Arsenic and Old Lace, Rear Window and so on. I wanted my kids to know two things: 1. Movies can be clean and fun and 2. Good movies didn’t start with Harry Potter. 🙂
The Wolf
I have to agree with Wolf on this one…
Is it possible for there to be Kosher Movies?
YEs anything is possible but in todays day and age most arent.
If no, would a Hebrew language be different?
Why would language change anything if the movies are innapropriate??
If you still say no, what is your opinion on the “Tisha B’av Event” videos?
Why wouldnt u be able to watch those??
sender av-yes…Rabbi mordechai Greenfield!! a real tzaddik!
No such thing as a kosher movie. Period. All the gedolim assured movies.
“but what I am saying is that if you want them to be able to learn to discern for themselves what is right and what is wrong, you’re going to have to educate them *with examples*.”
Thats like teaching yur kids about poisin by having them eat it.
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