May 6, 2013 12:04 am at 12:04 am #609225
Is a Kosher Phone an absolute must for BY seminaries?
Could I just get a plan without texting or internet and use a basic phone?
editedMay 6, 2013 12:18 am at 12:18 am #951212
Why don’t you ask the seminary what their policy is?May 6, 2013 12:18 am at 12:18 am #951213
Yes, it is an absolute must. At ateres, for sure, although there are plenty of girls who sneak in non-kosher phones so that they can have data and texting plans. I don’t encourage it though. It is not a good idea at all.May 6, 2013 12:31 am at 12:31 am #951214
I’m not getting a data or texting plan, just calling. But I don’t see the difference between a basic phone with no texting or data and a kosher phone. If your phone looks like a kosher phone, (being that its not a smart phone,) would they care? Kosher phones are more expensive than any of the old basic phones you’ll find.
I tried emailing my seminary, but it just takes so long to get answers from them…May 6, 2013 12:41 am at 12:41 am #951215
Do you want to have a successful year?May 6, 2013 12:54 am at 12:54 am #951216
Uhh, yeah. I’m not getting internet on my phone for a reason.May 6, 2013 12:54 am at 12:54 am #951217
Real-brisker, long time no see!May 6, 2013 12:57 am at 12:57 am #951218
There is a reason why they want a kosher phone. No?May 6, 2013 12:57 am at 12:57 am #951219
DY – Likewise!!May 6, 2013 1:01 am at 1:01 am #951220
Probably, however if there’s an alternative that accomplishes the same goal, why not?May 6, 2013 2:41 am at 2:41 am #951221
I tried emailing my seminary, but it just takes so long to get answers from them…
I love that your seminary has email.May 6, 2013 3:10 am at 3:10 am #951222
i think the kosher phones arent able to get texting/internet, whereas a regular phone, you’d technically have the ability to put them on in semMay 6, 2013 3:13 am at 3:13 am #951223
nanny – a kosher phone has no texting. a regular phone has no texting . . . unless you change you r mind and ask them to add it. That’s the difference.
Vogue – I’m surprised you found girls at Ateres sneaking them in. I don’t think my daughter found it to be that way last year. (B”H)May 6, 2013 3:35 am at 3:35 am #951224
SaysMe – jinx!May 6, 2013 3:43 am at 3:43 am #951225
Probably, however if there’s an alternative that
accomplishes the same goal, why not?
Ummm, I don’t think the seminary thinks so.May 6, 2013 3:53 am at 3:53 am #951226
syag-:)May 6, 2013 4:05 am at 4:05 am #951227
I hear, but some girls who in general sneak blackberries, or other nonkosher phones into their bais yaakov seminaries have extenuating circumstances. I was accepted to a bais yaakov seminary for shana bet, and if I would have ended up making plans to go, I would find it very difficult to adapt to having a kosher phone. I am not saying I would sneak my galaxy in just because of that, but at the same time, a different girl in my position might want to have a kosher phone, and a smart phone.May 6, 2013 4:08 am at 4:08 am #951228popa_bar_abbaParticipant
They should make seminaries for those girls with some sort of rehab.May 6, 2013 4:12 am at 4:12 am #951229
Uch… no popa, that was not the point at all. Imagine a baal teshuva becoming the gadol hador. Its the same concept, but on a less extreme level.May 6, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #951230
wait, so now you’re saying you DO want texting/internet, cuz the change will be hard? I dont think ppl are going to tell you it’s okay to go against sem policy. If i’m misunderstanding and you dont want text/internet, then whats the difference to get a kosher phone as opposed to a simple phone with a talk-only plan?May 6, 2013 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #951231gavra_at_workParticipant
Why don’t you ask the seminary what their policy is?
Second this.May 6, 2013 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #951232NechomahParticipant
Nanny there are lots of places to get cheap kosher phones – I got a pretty good one for less than $100 and I know there were others for less than that. Monthly service fees are a bit higher I think than for regular plans for some reason, but you should look into the ones from America or EY based that have unlimited calling to chu”l. I know they exist but I don’t know any details.May 6, 2013 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #951233rationalfrummieMember
I would honestly just go with the kosher phone. Your whole Israel experience will be a lot more meaningful and fun if you’re not distracted and can focus on learning.May 6, 2013 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #951234
In the best case scenario, you’ll spend so much time hiding it you won’t enjoy it anyway. Not worth the trouble.May 6, 2013 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #951235crdleMember
theres something called israelcellular.com they sell lines to israel for seminaries as well. or you can just go to optique elegance on COney Island Ave in Brooklyn, they sell Orange kosher phones and lines at Israeli prices. I just got a few for israel!May 6, 2013 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #951236
Right, I also just came back from Optique Elegance and got a kosher sim card. The monthly price is amazing! So my seminary said that a kosher phone has a kosher certification stamp on it. They do sell a kosher phone at Optique, for $45, however it didn’t have any certification stamp on it (yet still it was called kosher). I didn’t get it though, because we have a perfectly good phone at home that’s from a million years ago (like one of those nerdy flip phones with a tiny screen and just numbers)that I could use- which obviously also doesn’t have a stamp on it…
I don’t think its worth getting the kosher phone they sell since anyways it doesn’t have a stamp so who knows if they would allow it!May 6, 2013 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #951237
vogue-my apologies, i mixed up urs and nanny’s posts. Ignore my last postMay 7, 2013 12:59 am at 12:59 am #951238WIYMember
If a girl has a kosher phone can she wear pants in seminary?May 7, 2013 1:49 am at 1:49 am #951239
Only if it’s a Pantech.May 7, 2013 3:00 am at 3:00 am #951240sem graduateMember
The phones themselves are more expensive than the non kosher ones, but you can buy a kosher one without a stamp as someone mentioned above.
I have a kosher unlimited to the US and in Israel phone from Orange. I pay 75 shekel a month (aprox. 20 dollars). I think that’s a far cry from expensive. Definitely cheaper than the not kosher.May 7, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #951241
You can tell from the phone number if it is kosher.May 7, 2013 4:08 am at 4:08 am #951242
WIY – only if she’s a kohenMay 7, 2013 4:24 am at 4:24 am #951243OneOfManyParticipant
My seminary had a group plan (with kosher phones) that they wanted everyone to be on so as to be able to contact everyone quickly during emergencies. A few girls (mostly the non-Americans who already had cell phones that included Israel service) asked the Menahelet if it would be okay if they kept theirs, and it wasn’t a problem. So I would say talk to someone on the staff and see what the deal is.May 7, 2013 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm #951244
Okay. My seminary just replied that it must have a stamp on it.
Now the question is, where to find?May 7, 2013 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm #951245
Just ask someone for the stamp from their old phone.May 7, 2013 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #951246
you sure don’t mean that, I hopeMay 7, 2013 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #951247plonis3141Member
You can’t. Its engraved in the phone. They thought of that before you :).
I would imagine that the seminary has suggestions about where to get them, and as someone else said, some schools have a plan so that all the girls are on the same plan.
If not, any of the carriers in Israel have kosher lines – orange, cellcom, etc. And they all come with the stamp.May 7, 2013 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #951248bymrerMember
many girls my year had two phones-a kosher phone for seminary so that we would all be on the plan in case of an emergency, and another kosher phone with a cheaper plan-they just bought the cheapest plan for the seminary phone. you can look around, there are discounts, and some plans are better than others… hatzlacha!May 7, 2013 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #951249🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
You can get a kosher phone and stick in whatever sim card you want… then you’ll have text.May 7, 2013 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #951250
# You can get a kosher phone and stick in whatever sim card you want… then you’ll have text.
Not IME.May 7, 2013 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #951251
Gamanit, kosher phones block off the text. That’s why it’s “kosher.”
And my sem allows us to have any company we choose. So I got an Orange kosher plan the other day. The kosher phone that they offered DIDN’T HAVE A STAMP. So I didn’t get it.
Maybe I’ll ask a previous sem girl if I can borrow/buy off her kosher phone.May 7, 2013 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #951252🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
nanny- I was in a sem where we had to have kosher phones. Maybe they were improved, but when I was there I was able to put a non-kosher sim in a kosher phone and text. My friends did the same. A lot of girls had two sim cards. Talk ‘n Save has phones with the stamp.May 7, 2013 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #951256
Gamanit- isn’t it being nichshol to give out this information? With so many girls struggling with this nisayon, why make it easier?May 7, 2013 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #951258jbaldy22Member
So texting is now a nisayon and enabling someone to do it is called being nichshol? Guess I gotta get myself a new version of the S”H. Just because a seminary makes a rule does not make it halacha.May 7, 2013 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #951259
Don’t worry 🙂 I don’t have texting in America and don’t plan on having in seminary.May 7, 2013 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #951260
jbaldy – thank you for making immature leaps as to the meaning of my post. Do you respond that way to everything that you hear that might involve being accepting of other’s viewpoints? You were way off, but I appreciate your kind attitude.May 8, 2013 12:09 am at 12:09 am #951261writersoulParticipant
jbaldy: Correct me if I’m wrong, Syag, but the nisayon seems to be more like it would be about girls wanting to text even though it was against the rules.
I know that giving this stuff up is going to be hard for me- well, not really text, but rather constant email access and my iPod, depending on what sem I go to. I don’t NEED them, and 90% of the time I don’t use them, but knowing I can use them, even if I choose not to, is a good feeling.May 8, 2013 12:14 am at 12:14 am #951262jbaldy22Member
Considering that you were chastising someone else as opposed to presenting your own viewpoint I don’t see any problem with the comment. If you meant something else by the post and feel i misread it by all means explain – pretty sure thats the whole point of the CR.
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