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December 11, 2008 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #588857noitallmrParticipant
Every now and again a brochure from Kupat Ha’ir, an Israeli Tzeddaka Company gets put through my mailbox with guaranteed Yeshuos for people who donate and loads of stories on how their Tzeddoka is better then others because of all the stories about them. I was jsut wondering, do Yeshuos not come because of the actual Tzeddoka giving? Is this not a lack of Emuna that you just depend on Nisim from this organization?
December 11, 2008 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #627531myshadowMember“how their Tzeddoka is better then others because of all the stories about them”
They are not trying to say that their tzedaka is better than others, perhaps they just publicize it more than others.
But whatever works if someone gives tzeddaka to ANY organization, as long as they have the right machsava that in the zchus of tzeddaka they should be helped, hopefully they will get their yeshua
December 11, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #627532brooklyn19Participantthink of it like this: there a million pesukim and maamre chazal that tell us the reward for a specific mitzva. it’s not a secret. if someone only honors his parents so that he’ll live a long life, it’s not lishma – but he still did the mitzva. “mitoch she’lo lishma, bah lishma”
December 11, 2008 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #627533abcd1234Participantsomeone was recently telling me a story of a childless woman went to the Chofetz Chaim (?) and asked him to do something she was crying bitterly and he refused to do anything while she was crying bitterly. so she said fine! she’d do it herself and then he called her back. Ain lanu al mi lehisha’ain ela avinu shebashamiyim. its emunah and the zchus of the tzedakah thats the point and has brought many yeshuos
December 12, 2008 2:43 am at 2:43 am #627534dont have internetMemberi dont know but the stories in there are amazing and after i read 1 of them i always want to give and sometimes i do
December 14, 2008 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #627536intellegentMemberDoes it bother anyone that Gedolim are starting to be treated as celebreties L’havdil? They put the gadol’s picture on their organization’s brochure or on ads in the paper. I find it a bit degrading but maybe I’m wrong.
December 14, 2008 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm #627537BogenParticipantintellegent, Many Rebbes and Rabbonim didn’t allow themselves do be photographed for that very reason. They held it was a form of Avoda Zora.
December 14, 2008 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #627538WolfishMusingsParticipantBogen,
Are you saying that they would view amateur and professional photographers as <i>ovdei avodah zarah</i>? That doesn’t sound right. Please tell me that I’m misunderstanding you.
The Wolf
December 15, 2008 12:13 am at 12:13 am #627539brooklyn19Participanti think it’s because people don’t know the limits between “respect” and “worship.” my rav is very makpid not to have his picture all over the place. yes, he’s in pictures at his children’s weddings and stuff. but he got very upset when he was told that his picture was framed in a sforim store. i think they actually agreed to take it down and not to sell it.
December 15, 2008 4:45 am at 4:45 am #627540The Queen of PersiaMemberAren’t there halachos involved in the priority of whom to give tzedaka first? Aren’t aniyei iricho kodmim? (the poor of your own city take precedence).
December 15, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm #627541shindyMemberWhenever I see the kupat Ha’ir “magazine” I always wonder who pays for this advertisement, it seems pretty expensive don’t you think?
December 15, 2008 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #627542noitallmrParticipantGood Question shindy. Probably someone donates in order to advertise. After all it is a big Zechus if people look at the advertisement and give money all because of you.
December 15, 2008 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #627543shindyMemberI just got my mail from the mail box and there it is, a kupat ha’ir flier. They are also in my newspaper, stuck in for good measure. I don’t see any advertisements in their flier.
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