July 25, 2017 10:47 am at 10:47 am #1324957
Anyone have any experience with this?
Is it shabbos-friendly?July 25, 2017 10:54 am at 10:54 am #1324974
Nevermind. Reviews are horrible.
Anyone know of anything else similar that actually works?July 25, 2017 11:14 am at 11:14 am #1324996
Similar in what sense? What does this product do that you’re seeking?July 25, 2017 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1325004
Sorry, I should’ve specified.
The feature in which I am interested is that which allows you to give access to specific people only for specific times (e.g. if I wanted to rent out my house for a day). I would also like the ability to set it up remotely, but I could live without that.
Also I would need it to function on shabbos in a permissible way (for me, with a regular key).July 25, 2017 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1325005gefilteParticipant
There’s the August Smart Lock, it seems to work well. Probably not Shabbos-friendly.July 25, 2017 11:36 am at 11:36 am #1325028
If it is electronic and has an electronic keypad and timer, even if it has a physical key feature, that physical key will almost surely be interacting with the units electronic mechanism.July 25, 2017 11:39 am at 11:39 am #1325032
If it is electronic and has an electronic keypad and timer, even if it has a physical key feature, that physical key will almost surely be interacting with the units electronic mechanism.
Is that a problem if it makes no detectable change?July 25, 2017 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #1325049
What if the physical key has an electronic chip in it but that chip is not detectable or visible and you wouldn’t know about it unless you broke the key apart or looked up the device’s technical specs?July 25, 2017 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1325079
What if the physical key has an electronic chip in it but that chip is not detectable or visible and you wouldn’t know about it unless you broke the key apart or looked up the device’s technical specs?
Or made a regular copy and tried it.
I’m almost positive that the physical keys are just regular keys. Otherwise you would be stuck if the batteries diedJuly 25, 2017 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #1325093
My rhetorical question was trying to clarify your question whether it is a problem on Shabbos if it isn’t detectable, by taking it to the next step.July 25, 2017 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #1325102
Ok so I’ll re-word my question:
Would the possible interaction between the physical key and the electronic mechanism be a halachic problem if that interaction were neither easily detectable nor beneficial?July 25, 2017 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #1325110
How would your question be different than my example of a key with a hidden chip?July 25, 2017 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #1325113
If there is a hidden chip then the interaction is beneficial, whether or not I know about it.
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