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The artscroll gemara (during chazaras hashatz) is nice, but where’s your hat? What does getting married or having money have to do with not showing respect for regular. Yes, you have to wear a hat.
You know, you could have approached me in shul instead of going straight to the internet and embarrassing me publicly, but I’ll address your points anyway.
Yes, I’m married and have lots of money. I wasn’t wearing a hat because my dog ate my hat. My dog also ate my Oz V’Hadar gemara, that’s why I was using an Artscroll gemara (I was covering the English side with my siddur).
And just for your information, I came late to davening and I was saying Sh’mona Esrai with the Shaliach Tzibur, so it technically wasn’t during Chazaras Hashatz for me.
The MB in O”CH 91:12 emphasizes the importance of wearing a hat for davenen.
Its also important to come on time to davening ,yet no one seems to as disturbed by one not wearing a hat.
Also no one seems to be disturbed by married people who wear a talis who dont have thier head covered through out davening. If one must wear a hat then those wearing a talis should either wear a hat or cover thier head with thier tallis ,but no one says anything about it. Total hypocrisy.T2t, I have no idea what hypocrisy you’re talking about.
The people who wear hats for Mincha and Maariv do cover their heads for Shacharis, at least for Shemoneh Esreh and krias Shema.
Yes, I’m married and have lots of money.
I think that’s an oxymoron.
Hey guys, tonight is Rosh Chodesh Tammuz. That means pretty soon it’s Av. Then Tisha b’Av.
No, it is not an oxymoron. אשתו כגופו.
DY: He’s talking about when people who would otherwise have worn their hat during all of davening go on to get married and switch to a tallis, they either only cover their head with it for minimal amounts of davening, or never at all. Eg. They used to wear a hat from baruch sh’amar to the end, now they wear a tallis and they only put it over their head for shmoneh esrei if ever, so it’s like they downgraded. I see this all the time.
Anyway, how did this thread end up getting taken seriously? And, why aren’t we talking about the Artscroll part of the post?
Have you thought that maybe I worked late and didn’t have time to go home and get my hat. If the choice is not davening or davening without a hat, I think the answer is rather daven without.
Also, most yarmulkes have a lining and can possibly be considered a double covering.
He’s talking about when people who would otherwise have worn their hat during all of davening go on to get married and switch to a tallis, they either only cover their head with it for minimal amounts of davening, or never at all.
Not all if davening is equal – when wearing a hat, it’s easier to keep it on. It’s not a downgrade b’shita, the hat wasn’t worn the entire davening other than out of convenience.
I don’t believe not covering during Shacharis Shemoneh Esreh is common for ir those who wear a hat for other tefillos.
Also, most yarmulkes have a lining and can possibly be considered a double covering.
Wouldn’t that depend on the reason for wearing two head coverings during prayer? If the purpose is to don special garments for prayer, then the fact that the kippa you wear all the time has a lining wouldn’t seem to serve that purpose.
No, it is not an oxymoron. אשתו כגופו
I’m not following you.
Ok how about this: Is it better to use a regular gemara in shul during chazaras hashatz, or an Artscroll gemara at home while your kids are listening to Uncle Moishy and jumping around like meshugenas?
Thank you, Meno, for finally getting this thread back on track. I say Uncle Art with Uncle Moishy.
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