March 23, 2016 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #617452mommamia22Participant
I know we’re noheg not to eat matza 30 days before Pesach.
Does anyone know if Purim (not shushan Purim) counts as part of those days?
I want to use matza meal in a recipe and am not sure if it’s ok.March 23, 2016 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #1144350ubiquitinParticipant
Who is the “we are” most people I know are noheg from Rosh chodesh.
And even those who do have the minhag matzah meal is often not included since it cant be used for mitzvah.
Of course if by “we are” you meant your family has this hanhaga, ask them.March 23, 2016 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #1144351
I haven’t heard that the minhag affects anything but matzah itself. Have you heard otherwise?March 23, 2016 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1144352
It should start on Purim, as the basis is probably shloshim Yom kodem hachag… http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=916&st=&pgnum=273
It should also only apply to matza you can be yotzei with, as ubiquitin and flatbusher said.March 23, 2016 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1144353old manParticipant
I also have that minhag.
You may eat matzah on Purim
You may anything containing matzah (matzah meal, etc..) till Erev Pesach.
It’s the taste, not the product.March 23, 2016 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #1144354
Some Poskim ridicule the custom to avoid eating Matzah before Erev Pesach. There he writes that one should not say that many [Rabim] are accustomed to avoid eating Matzah starting from Rosh Chodesh, but rather one should read Rakim [ignoramuses] are accustomed to avoid eating Matzah before Erev Pesach, as they are arguing on the decree of the Sages which only decreed on Erev Pesach.March 23, 2016 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #1144355
Orchos Chaim Spinka hardly qualifies as “some poskim”.March 23, 2016 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #1144356
Why should anyone ridicule the minhag of other people? Since I am not fond of mitzvah in the first place, the longer I abstain from it the better chance I have to eat it at the seder b’taiavon.March 23, 2016 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1144357
“Since I am not fond of mitzvah in the first place”
It is forbidden to speak that way about a mitzvah.March 23, 2016 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #1144358
Im sure thats atypo and she meant, she isnt fond of matzah.March 23, 2016 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #1144359
Still not allowed to say that.March 23, 2016 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1144360
say what? and why??March 23, 2016 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #1144361
He means he doesn’t physically enjoy eating matzah, and there’s nothing wrong with that.March 23, 2016 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #1144362
To say that one is not fond of matzah… Is one allowed to say that he is not fond of tefillin, or not fond of a certain suyga?March 23, 2016 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #1144363
That’s right, I am not fond of matzah as a food but I do it for the mitzvah. Where does it say it is forbidden to say I don’t like mitzvah?March 23, 2016 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #1144364
One who eats matzah is eating G-dliness.March 23, 2016 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #1144365squeakParticipant
I am not fond of wine. This is far worse, since I am openly stating a dislike for the object of not just the cups of wine during the seder but also kiddush wine all throughout the entire year. You will surely think I am a very wicked person indeed, but alas I cannot help it.
The squeakMarch 23, 2016 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm #1144366
You should have capitalized the S.
The DYMarch 24, 2016 2:37 am at 2:37 am #1144367
Matza. A 3 cornered flatbread eaten by jews everywhere on Purim.March 24, 2016 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1144368147Participant
I want to use matza meal in a recipe and am not sure if it’s ok. You can even on Erev Pesach before last 1/4 of the day, utilize matza meal in a recipe such as matza balls or filter fish balls if the item is then cooked, so Al Achas Kamo veKamo that you can surely enhance your Purim Seudo with such an item.March 24, 2016 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1144369
For the critics of saying I am not fond of matzah. Matzah is still a food and as a human being I am entitled to have my preferences of things I like to eat. The fact that it is a mitzvah and I do it because Hashem commanded us to do it, well, when you enjoy the matzah so much, are you detracting from the mitzvah?March 27, 2016 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #1144370
If you are not fond of wine, you can make Kiddush on grape juice or even on challah.
There is a difference between matzah as stam a regular food and matzah as a mitzvah object, which one is halachically obligated by Torah law to ingest on the first night of Pesach. The reason we don’t eat matzah on erev Pesach (or, according to some customs, for a month before yom tov) is (a) so we will be able to eat it at night with a hearty appetite, and it will be dear to us and (b) to distinguish between matzah as stam a food and matzah as a mitzvah object. [If one would eat matzah on erev Pesach or at any other time, it would be stam a regular food, but on the night of the seder it becomes a mitzvah object, every kezayis of which fulfills an additional mitzvah d’oraysa.]March 28, 2016 11:07 am at 11:07 am #1144371
My family’s minhag (Yekkish – Hamburg) is not to eat matza from after Purim. I have never seen a mekor for this. Does anyone know where it comes from? But it’s only proper matza. Matza crackers and matza meal is fine up to and including erev pesach.
I have been known to eat shalosh seudos with matza until erev pesach. -pleeease don’t tell my father.March 29, 2016 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1144372
R’ Moshe suggests that it’s related to the halachah that one is supposed to involve oneself in hilchos Pesach thirty days before Yom Tov.
The basic idea is that once the Pesach preparations have begun, one shouldn’t eat matzah until it is obligatory.
The halachah is that that is the day before Pesach, but various minhagim were adopted based on the preparation of learning the halachos, about which there is a machlokes whether that begins two weeks or thirty days before Pesach.March 29, 2016 1:20 am at 1:20 am #1144373mommamia22Participant
I appreciate the posts and explanations.March 29, 2016 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1144374aquestioningjewParticipant
Mik5 – perhaps a good Tzu shteel is the Rashi (Gemoro)about saying you want to eat chaser… No one says you have to like Matzah and I don’t think tis bizoyondik to say you don’t like it. We do it for a Mitzvah.
Geordie613 – I’m guessing you don’t want people to know who you are. May I humbly suggest that if so, perhaps you may want to consider not giving hints…March 29, 2016 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1144375
I would be very happy to put my full name and address on here. I’ve given enough hints over the years. Any one who knows me would already have identified me.March 29, 2016 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1144376zahavasdadParticipant
My minhag is not to eat Matza after the 23rd of NissanMarch 30, 2016 9:34 am at 9:34 am #1144377
In Belz the minhag is to have a bit of Matzah everyday after Pesach until Shavuos.
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