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Is it permissible? Even afer Rosh Chodesh?June 5, 2011 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1017878real-briskerMember
Huh?June 5, 2011 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #1017879Smile E. FaceMember
i would’ve looked up teh answer, but i wasn’t sure if i was allowed to :0)June 6, 2011 1:18 am at 1:18 am #1017880
(let’s spell it out) If one is not allowed to eat Matzah before the Seder then..June 6, 2011 1:32 am at 1:32 am #1017881real-briskerMember
Sorry I didn’t catch the humor.June 6, 2011 3:10 am at 3:10 am #1017882YW Moderator-42Moderator
My minhag is not to learn from the 5th of IyarJune 6, 2011 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #1017883
Isn’t that the Russian minhag, the rest do it from the 25th?June 6, 2011 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #1017884BSDMember
I’m not sure, but I’m not taking any chances.June 7, 2011 1:47 am at 1:47 am #1017885Boro Park GirlMember
We should be m’farseim this idea because I think that their are many people(including my brothers, father, uncles…) who might be doing something wrong because they are in Yeshiva or learning! ;-0 Yikes!!!June 7, 2011 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1017886moishyParticipant
I don’t think this is so funnyJune 7, 2011 3:01 am at 3:01 am #1017887charliehallParticipant
“Is it permissible? Even afer Rosh Chodesh?”
Is this serious? Is it ever permissible NOT to learn?June 7, 2011 3:46 am at 3:46 am #1017888
Some guys (like me) are scary. One can never tell when they’re serious or not.June 7, 2011 4:46 am at 4:46 am #1017889ToiParticipant
Does your family eat beets on Shavuos??June 7, 2011 8:48 am at 8:48 am #1017890YW Moderator-42Moderator
BPG wrote “We should be m’farseim this idea because I think that their are many people(including my brothers, father, uncles…) who might be doing something wrong because they are in Yeshiva or learning! ;-0 Yikes!!!”
There’s no problem with being in yeshiva, the problem is learningJune 7, 2011 10:01 am at 10:01 am #1017891apushatayidParticipant
Mod-42 makes a very important observation.
Can we infer there is no issue of maras ayin here.June 7, 2011 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #1017892am yisrael chaiParticipant
“Is it ever permissible NOT to learn?”
I guess you’ve never had to deal with a niftar, baruch Hashem.
(Btw, some hold not to learn on the night of Dec 25 &
some hold not to learn textually inside tanach from tzais to chatzos.)June 7, 2011 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm #1017893jewish sourceParticipant
Its not a bad question. But the difference is simple food the more you eat the Fuller you feel Torah the more you learnthe less you feel you know that’s Torah lishmaJune 7, 2011 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1017894☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Is it ever permissible NOT to learn?
Tisha B’av, (except for inyanei churban & aveilus), Nittel, (according to soeme), when you’re asleep.June 7, 2011 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1017895klachMember
according to many shitos it is assur to learn on tisha b’av stuff that does not pertain to tisha b’av before chatzos.June 7, 2011 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1017896apushatayidParticipant
Its a good thing tisha bav doesnt fall out on shavuos then.June 7, 2011 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #1017898☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Its a good thing tisha bav doesnt fall out on shavuos then.
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from what I recall from the alter heim, we were machmir six months before and six months after.May 29, 2014 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #1017900Little FroggieMember
Hurry, before Rosh Chodesh..May 29, 2014 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1017901HaLeiViParticipant
Obviously, you are allowed from Rosh Chodesh since it says, Yachol Merosh Chodesh.May 29, 2014 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1017902Sam2Participant
HaLeiVi: I was once M’orer that that phrase shouldn’t be in the Hagaddah according to what we hold. It’s Rabban Gamliel L’shitaso, that Shoalin V’dorshin is only 2 weeks. We should hold a month and say “Yachol MiPurim”.May 30, 2014 2:21 am at 2:21 am #1017903rationalfrummieMember
If I remember the gemara at the end of megillah correctly, wasn’t Moshe shoalin vedorshin hilchos pesach on pesach, sukkos on sukkos, etc? Is the inyan of learning 30 days before the same thing or a different idea entirely? I want to hear a good he’arah.May 30, 2014 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1017904147Participant
I have an 2 exceedingly long standing Gezeiros Shovu’os comparing Erev Pesach to Erev Shovu’os.
1) Just as I go to sleep on Erev Pesach afternoon, likewise I go to sleep on Erev Shovu’os afternoon.
2) Just as I consume Coke & coffee [ice cream & drink] on Erev Pesach afternoon, likewise I consume Coke & coffee [ice cream & drink] on Erev Shovu’os afternoon.
Fulfillment of these 2 Gezeiro Shovos supersedes all Talmud Toroh at those hours.May 30, 2014 3:34 am at 3:34 am #1017905HaLeiViParticipant
Some say that 30 days before is for Halachos while the Chag itself is for Aggada. Some say that 30 days before is when a Rav must answer all questions about the Chag and can’t say he is not in the Sugya.May 30, 2014 3:40 am at 3:40 am #1017906Sam2Participant
RF: The Rishonim ask that exact question (actually, the Gemara itself might ask but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t). The standard answer is that Sukkos and Pesach require 30 days because they have a lot of Halachos but everything else is just on its day.
If I recall correctly, and I probably don’t because I never saw most of it inside and haven’t discussed it in over 10 years now, the Meiri at the end of Megillah quotes a different answer (D’oraisa vs D’rabannan) and someone brings down that there is a Din D’Oraisa to learn Inyano Shel Yom but an additional Chiyuv D’rabannan to learn about things with lots of Halachos 30 days before as preparation.
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