June 10, 2011 3:16 am at 3:16 am #597325ImaofthreeParticipant
Thirteen people in Teaneck were treated from carbon monoxide poisoning from an oven that was left on for two days. (refuah shelayma to them) Do you leave your oven on, what do you use to warm up or cook food on yom tov/shabbos?
I use a crockpot for choulent on shabbos and electric hot plates but I did leave a small flame on the cook top of my gas oven, covered with a blech. We have a carbon monoxide detector. but maybe I shouldn’t leave any gas on at all for two days.June 10, 2011 3:21 am at 3:21 am #775897The BuzzMember
I once read to leave the blech on for as little as possible, so i only put it on when heating multiple foods. bec. of the heat, that’s all we leave on over yom tov and crock pot for shabbos.June 10, 2011 3:26 am at 3:26 am #775898ShloimieBParticipant
These incidents did not happen years ago. They are a direct result of having no air leakage and great insulation. it might be healthier to have less perfect insulation.June 10, 2011 3:32 am at 3:32 am #775899The BuzzMember
yeah, we also left our kitchen vent on…June 10, 2011 3:40 am at 3:40 am #775900emlfMember
If you don’t have a blech on over the fire, isn’t there a greater chance of the fire being blown out – gust of wind, etc?
On Pesach, I walked into someone’s house and immediately smelled gas. Yes, indeed, the fire had blown out. No blech.
Not that things are perfect with a blech, but I think it’s safer that way. I could be wrong.
Yes, good idea to have a window open a little bit in the kitchen . . .June 10, 2011 3:45 am at 3:45 am #775901wanderingchanaParticipant
Smoke/CO detectors save lives!!!June 10, 2011 4:01 am at 4:01 am #775902OfcourseMember
Its upsetting to think that outsiders see us as doing risky things in the name of religion, leading to additional use of fire department and ambulance and hospital personnel. I wish there would be an easy solution. Non stop use for 2 or 3 days is more than most appliances are made to tolerate, in addition to carbon monoxide issues.June 10, 2011 4:12 am at 4:12 am #775903charliehallParticipant
Back when ranges had pilot lights, this was not an issue, as you could turn off the burner itself as long as the pilot light was still lit.June 10, 2011 4:22 am at 4:22 am #775904
I recommend placing your food on top of a crockpot, hot water urn or other source of heat especially when leaving the stove on generates extra heat in the house besides the carbon problem.June 10, 2011 4:34 am at 4:34 am #775905OfcourseMember
K E B E, placing food on a crockpot works if you have a small family, but if you have a large family or lots of company and are warming several courses, its not doable.June 10, 2011 4:40 am at 4:40 am #775906thecommissionerParticipant
My Carbon Monoxide detector went off 3 am. I immediately opened my windows and door to air out the house. Carbon Monoxide detectors save lives!!June 10, 2011 4:41 am at 4:41 am #775907
True, but for larger families have the hot plate on a timer. Just a suggestion…June 10, 2011 4:45 am at 4:45 am #775908HealthParticipant
I think it’s safer to leave the oven on, than the stove. The stove with the blech is good for shabbos, not for a two day yom tov. I keep the oven on “warm” and raise it as needed. You can lower it again if you don’t want the food to get overcooked or while the light is off.June 10, 2011 4:49 am at 4:49 am #775909SJSinNYCMember
Hey, I’m famous LOL.(and its 13.5! don’t forget my almost born child)
B”H for carbon monoxide detectors.
The problem was a combination of an old, leaky stove and new windows. Withour old, leaky windows, this wasn’t an issue. I also think I might have turned the flame down a bit low, which can increase the chances of incompolete combustion.
None of us were seriously injured in any way. All we needed was some oxygen, but we all did have a scare.
Important things to remember:
1) Always make sure your CO detectors are functioning and located in proper positions. Too close to the source will just make it a nuisance alarm – too far and it won’t detect until too late.
2) Get out of the house immediately. Many of us were in odd combinations of clothing or lackthereof, but CO is DEADLY. Pikuach nefesh trumps the need to put on your kippah, skirt, head covering etc.
3) Carbon monoxide is lethal and odorless. Headaches, vomitting, nausea, dizziness and fatigue are all common signs. If you suspect anything, call 911 immediately.June 10, 2011 5:01 am at 5:01 am #775910HealthParticipant
SJS – Teaneck is in Jersey, so why SJS in NYC?June 10, 2011 8:02 am at 8:02 am #775911hanibParticipant
wow, boruch Hashem you’re all okay.June 10, 2011 11:04 am at 11:04 am #775912SJSinNYCMember
when I signed up, I was living in Brooklyn.June 10, 2011 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #775913
B”H- Mi k’amcha yisrael- You’re more than famous…You’re part of the Yiddishe family! B”H you and you mishpacha, Ka”H, are ok.June 10, 2011 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #775914zahavasdadParticipant
This happend to a friend of mine on the first day
the CO dectecter went off on the first day and the fire department came down to their apartmentJune 10, 2011 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #775915Feif UnParticipant
If you’re going to leave the oven or stove on, just leave a kitchen window open. If you have a ceiling fan, leave that on as well. I once had my CO alarm go off on Yom Tov, and was told to do that. Once I started with that, it never went off again. Just note, if you leave a burner on with an open window (or fan), check it to be sure a breeze doesn’t blow out a burner set on the lowest setting. Then you’d have the gas running without a flame, and that can cause a huge fire.
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