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Hooligans are worse. I was on a bus with a bunch last month, 11.30 PM blasting the latest horrible song on a public bus…..
I was on a bus with a bunch of girls last last month.
I was trying to listen to the latest amazing song which I was playing really quietly on my cassette player, but there was this girl who was talking so loud I couldn’t even hear the music.
She must not have realized how loudly she was talking on a public bus…
So you two have met.
Huh, wonder if that was me.
1. It has been many, many years since I have taken that bus, but the last time I did so the men and women were separate on different sides of the aisle, not front and back.
2. The Monsey Trails buses have women sit in the front right of the bus and often put a mechitza up for davening. Apparently the rear vision of the bus driver is not an issue.
3. When I was a boy (my memory of this is a bit hazy but the key point is clear), I once took the Heiman bus with my mother. My mother had an arm in a cast and we had a lot of stuff, including a basketball which didn’t fit in my suitcase. Anyway, when we got on the bus we saw in the first two seats, just like the couple in the video. At a later stop a man got on and said that he had paid for the front two seats, they were his and we had to move. By this time, however there were no nearby double open seats and argument broke out between some men as to where on the bus we should be seated. Then my mother shouted “Please!” and started crying “I just want to sit with my son, I have a broken arm and lots of packages, can we just stay here?” And then everyone just backed off and let us sit there. If your attitude is conciliatory and sincere, you are much more likely to get your preferred outcome than if you are aggressive.
By the way, my earlier comment, “Let’s not and say we did” was referring to the Title of the thread “Let’s hock about…”. I had not actually read any of the posts (due to my philosophy of “let’s not and say we did” when it comes to such topics). But I just realized that if anyone actually did read other posts, it’s possible that my comment could have been taken as referring to something else (although I don’t know what that would be).
So I’m just clarifying that it was meant to refer to the title (which I think was all that I had read).
[D]o you know the reason *why* the Halacha is that men are prohibited from walking behind women? The same reason could easily be applicable to sitting behind them, especially for an extended period of time.The reason, according to Rabbi P. E. Falk (in Oz v’Hadar L’vusha) is “so that he is not
drawn to watching her as she walks.” That’s obviously not applicable when she’s sitting down.
He is in favor of not having women be where they are visible to men, though,
based on Bereishis Rabba about Eliezer riding ahead of Rivka and her servants.
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