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    Health
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    Is the fact that some countries like France, that are very liberal, creating an environment where extremism can flourish?

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    akuperma
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    Actually the leading movements in France are the socialist and the nationalists. The classic European liberals really aren’t a factor. France has had a significant migration of Muslims from its former empire including most of the terrorists and many of the security personnel killed by said terrorists.

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    DikDukDuck
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    To some liberalism means tolerating others different that oneself, which to some includes extremism. What needs to be realized are limits on how much extremism is too much extremism, and where that line is. As is the case with my father in a post-9/11 world, simply wearing a black hat and a beard (Jewish attire) can trigger peoples’ poorly tuned and hyper sensitive extremism detectors. 🙁

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    Sam2
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    There’s nothing inherently wrong with extremism. It’s only when it leads to violence that it’s a problem.

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    ubiquitin
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    Profound insight by health!

    See in oppressive regimes (Saudi Arabia, Iran Etc) that are the antithesis of liberalism, extremisim can’t flourish.

    #1051375
    Health
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    Akurpman – I wasn’t talking about political parties, but liberal attitudes.

    #1051376
    Health
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    DikDukDuck & Sam2 – I agree with both of you. The problem that Western society has is how to draw the line. France should allow burkas. They shouldn’t allow preaching of violence!

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    👑RebYidd23
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    Political parties reflect attitudes.

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    yytz
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    What is left and right is very different by country and time. It’s not so simple that one can say that liberalism led to extremism in France. We are more liberal than them in some ways (affirmative action, etc.)

    The Muslim immigrants are simply very different there. They let in the impoverished Muslim masses from their former colonies, while we (the US) let in the college-educated elite Muslims. We also have some extremism and terror attacks here too — Nidal Hassan killed 13, the Boston Bombers killed 3, the DC Snipers killed 10 (it’s unclear but they definitely seem to have been influenced by jihadi ideology), etc.

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    Health
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    Yytz -“What is left and right is very different by country and time. It’s not so simple that one can say that liberalism led to extremism in France. We are more liberal than them in some ways (affirmative action, etc.)”

    I agree we are more liberal here. The question is why we were spared. I think because we have a very good counter terrorism system. We shouldn’t rest on our britches!

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