June 20, 2018 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1543990
Hi Coffee Room Members,
Does anyone here have experience here in Lakewood with birth being covered by Liberty Healthshares? If yes, which hospitals/providers near Lakewood already accept reimbursement from Liberty Health Shares?
Feedback would be greatly appreciated!!June 21, 2018 12:28 am at 12:28 am #1544335
☢️ 🚭 ☣️ Rand0m3x 🧠🕴️🎲Participant
Wouldn’t it be better for you to contact them and ask them which providers
in the Lakewood area accept them?June 21, 2018 12:28 am at 12:28 am #1544329
My understanding is that Liberty will provide reimbursement regardless of which hospital or provider you use. The only difference is whether the provider will accept payment directly from Liberty or whether you’ll have to get the payment from Liberty and pay the provider yourself.
Since all hospitals in the US cannot refuse service even if the patient does not pay, you presumably can use any hospital without paying upfront and pay once you receive payment from Liberty.June 21, 2018 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1544499
I did, and they work somewhat backwards, and request I give them a list of providers and they will reach out to them, thanks for your feedback!June 21, 2018 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #1544500
Joseph, thanks you for feedback, it was very helpful, I will reach out to Liberty to confirm what you just said.
Thanks!!June 21, 2018 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #1544527
It is ONLY public hospitals that MUST accept all patients without regard to ability to pay or requiring payment in advance.
Private hospitals are not bound to do so for non-emergency situations. They do not consider normal-childbirth an emergent situation and at registration if you don’t have the acceptable insurance or prepayment they can redirect you to another facility if the travel time would not be detrimental to the mother or child.June 21, 2018 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #1544581
CTL, how can they redirect you to another facility if they don’t know whether the other facility will, similar to them, decline service?
In any event, I would think that child birth is considered to be an emergency situation.June 21, 2018 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #1544629
The chances are that the patient would be redirected to a public hospital.
Childbirth in the early stages of contractions is not considered an emergency situation. 10-15 minutes apart, there’s time to send you to a public hospital within 10 miles. 3 minutes apart..admittance.
We have two hospitals in our adjacent city. One is considered a public hospital, not owned by the government, but in the way it is subsidized by the state government. Both accept emergency room patients without regard to insurance or ability to pay. The private hospital does not accept elective patients without prior insurance company authorization and collection of the patient’s deductible prior to admission. The ‘public’ hospital bills the deductible/co-pay after the fact.June 21, 2018 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1544864
It is worth noting that many leading poskim hold that it is problematic to sign up for liberty health as it is a Christian organizationJune 21, 2018 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #1544933
I was also thinking the same question. Just had a Liberty guy in my office, the statement that must be signed says that I will abide by Christian values. I won’t sign that. I asked him if 8t could be changed to Judeo-Christian values, he has not gotten back to me. I am looking into the Jewish health share instead.June 22, 2018 8:00 am at 8:00 am #1544967
The T&C’s actually mention living like J. C.
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