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  • #1905392
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    Masks or no shul/yeshiva sounds like Shmad to me. There weren’t reported deaths in bungalow colonies over the summer. Boys were coming back and forth from day camp and not “killing grandparents.” We are being played by the NY Democrats in power The more we give in the worse it is long term. Thry don’t care when black people loot stores but they bother us over the slightest thing. They tried forcing yeshivas to teach things that are against our menorah and now they are shutting down yeshivas for no masks. They made up a total lie about deaths in Brooklyn. It’s time for a total boycott of the party. All of these dem primary votes haven’t helped. Every frum jew should register republican and change the course of politics in NY. “Just listen to them” didn’t help in 1930s Poland didn’t help then and it doesn’t now. We need a JDL again in NYC. Being nice jews never works.

    #1905456
    Doing my best
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    Cases are way higher than anywhere else in NY, and i don’t know about NY but in Lakewood there were 20 people in the hospital as of last night….

    So whether you want a shut down or not you can’t complain about the city thinking that the situation is not very good.

    #1905457
    Doing my best
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    And Masks have nothing to do with being Jewish, so i don’t really think this falls into what halachah considers shmad.

    #1905536
    Reb Eliezer
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    1, You can be ashamed of yourself. My writing this, if someone gets sick because of you, you violate the prohibitiion of לא תעמוד על דם רעך don’t be responsible for the blood of your fellow man. Even a safek pekuach nefesh is dacheh shabbos and Yom Kippur. On this it says סיג לחכמה שתיקה silence is golden. You are smarter than all doctors. You contribute to a Chilul Hashem. See Bobov-45 Rebbi wearing a mask at https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1905396/watch-it-nyc-health-dept-mentions-viral-photo-of-bubobovich-rebbe-wearing-mask.html

    #1905579
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    So you think DeBlasios open antisemitism is the answer?

    #1905594
    charliehall
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    I am not a De Blasio fan. But in fact no mayor ever has kowtowed as much to orthodox leadership. Now that we are ungratefully stabbing him in the back, we will never have another mayor who gives us as much heed:

    He let metzitzah be peh continue.
    He scuttled attempts to reform yeshiva education.
    He allowed big funerals in the middle of the lockdown.

    This is anti-Semitic?

    By our words and actions we send the message that it doesn’t matter what you do for us. Just wait until Jumaane Williams is mayor. You will be sadly wishing for a return to the days of De Blasio.

    #1906809

    The data of 11219 Borough Park is on Shabbos 3.9% positive cases, and on friday 4% positive, and we all know Yidden don’t test themselves on Shabbos or Yom Tov, (because it is not Pikuach Nefesh) unless they are admitted to a hospital, so it must be that all or most cases are not coming from the Yidden!

    Cuomo has the last word on this lockdown, and so far he hasn’t endorsed the lockdown, so lets wait and see what will happen.

    #1906877
    huju
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    To charliehall: Consider this. Allowing big Jewish funerals in the middle of a pandemic lockdown is not necessarily good for the Jews, as it increases the probability that some of the attendees will get seriously ill or die. But you are basically right – DeBlasio has, overall, been good for the Jews, including the frum. Now if only we could get the frum Jews to be good ….

    #1906892
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Huju – so you’re just willing to give him a pass on targeting jews and their livelihood and neighborhoods cuz you don’t like the way they’re behaving? That’s a bit of a frightening stance.

    #1907028

    11219 zip code includes a third of the nearby neighborhood Dyker Heights which there are no Jews. On the first day of Yom Tov there was reported a 5% of positive covid cases the same as friday, that is proof that the covid cases doesn’t have anything to do with the Jews!

    #1907493
    Reb Eliezer
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    Listening to the Republicans gives them power as well.

    #1907498
    jewishcommonsense
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    well republicans deserve the power, if only we can have another Giuliani

    #1907601
    Yechi Hamelech
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    “Listening to republicans gives them power as well”

    Exactly. And we need their power. We don’t need dems exaggerating the virus in order to promote their own anti-Trump agenda. They are getting America unnecessarily hyped about an issue that is not as bad as they make it to be.

    I couldn’t get yidden on mivtzoim to shake Lulav and Esrog even though I was wearing a mask and gloves! Because of lying dems, these yidden could not do a mitzvah! The world is going crazy about a virus that has no control outside according to all scientists.

    #1907919
    jackk
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    People being afraid of dying and getting sick, like the over 1 Million people dead worldwide, is not because of the lying dems.
    It is simple facts. The disease spreads. Science always wins. It is not a political party.

    Just check out how great Trump and every single member of his administration are doing now that they believed it is all a democratic lie.

    They all got infected. Trump needed major medical intervention from new and untested drugs to help him stay alive. Anybody besides him would be in the hospital now on a respirator.

    I cannot believe that anybody who has watched the news from the white house as people fall sick one after the other since erev sukkos, can still announce that it is “the lying dems”.

    I blame the republicans for ‘downplaying’ (trumps own words) the virus.

    #1907937
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Lie #1 – that they believed it is all a democratic lie.

    Lie #2 and 3 – to help him stay alive. Anybody besides him would be in the hospital now on a respirator.

    Talk about lying…

    #1908281
    jackk
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    Mrs Syag,

    FACT 1 “They tried the impeachment hoax. … And this is their new hoax.”
    FACT 2 Trump needed to go to the hospital.
    FACT 3 It wasn’t because he lost the sense of taste.
    FACT 4 He got the experimental drug Regeneron that nobody else would have gotten.

    Mrs Syag,
    I have found that it is your habit to take a post where you do not disagree with the primary point of it and just argue on ancillary comments.
    Also , you disagree vociferously without any proofs.

    If you agree with the primary point then you should say that before you comment on the points that were brought in derech agav.

    I could disagree with a lot of minutiae people say in posts, but try to stick to the main point.

    Further, it exasperates me to defend a point which was secondary to my main point. Why should I argue about it if it wasn’t the thrust of what I was posting about anyway?

    The main point was that not every person not wanting to take a lulav and esrog is because of the lying dems. “They are getting America unnecessarily hyped about an issue that is not as bad as they make it to be.”

    If you disagree with it, then say so. If you agree with it, than why are you wasting your time and getting into an argument?

    I don’t need to bring a proof from Trump regarding the seriousness of covid.
    If yechi lives in CH then he can walk around to the shuls and count the empty seats. Or he can just read the front pages of Jewish newspapers.

    The ancillary point was that the president and advisers also got very sick and he needed hospitalization. Thus showing from Republican president Trump that it is very serious.
    I did not need to write it nor defend it because it was not important to my point.

    Once you decided to be the arbiter of president Trump’s condition and calling what I wrote 2 lies, you will now need to defend yourself.

    How do you know LIE 2 and 3 ? You do not have a special connection in the WH that told you his exact condition and they are not publicizing it.
    My estimation (which is just that and can easily be disagreed with) is based on the drugs and treatment that they gave him.
    President Trump was prescribed the steroid dexamethasone. Sean Conley, DO, the president’s physician, said the steroid was given to him in response to his blood oxygen levels dropping twice to 93 percent, according to STAT. Normal pulse oximeter readings usually range from 95 to 100 percent.
    The steroid is typically recommended for hospitalized patients who need oxygen or are on ventilators.

    My estimation could be wrong but unless you have a better medical degree than me, your estimation is no better.

    #1908300
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Thank you SO, SO much for permission to respond to your ancillary point even tho it’s not done in the fashion you prefer to do things.

    “My estimation (which is just that and can easily be disagreed with) is based on the drugs and treatment that they gave him. President Trump was prescribed the steroid dexamethasone. Sean Conley, DO, the president’s physician, said the steroid was given to him in response to his blood oxygen levels dropping twice to 93 percent, according to STAT. Normal pulse oximeter readings usually range from 95 to 100 percent. The steroid is typically recommended for hospitalized patients who need oxygen or are on ventilators. My estimation could be wrong but unless you have a better medical degree than me, your estimation is no better.”

    You answer your own question. Per the hospital, because he is overweight and 74 they chose to use the protocol as soon as the numbers dropped even tho they normally wait. Not sure the docs degrees so i don’t know if that works for you but you obviously knew you made it up and stated it anyway, which i find to be more than ancillary. Sorry for not following your lead.

    I think trump is a moron, uncouth, a bigmouth and loves trolling the press, which i find infantile. I have stated this repeatedly. Calling you out on drama isn’t to defend trump. Its just cuz that’s what you do with drama.

    #1908360
    Yechi Hamelech
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    Jackk,
    It is ironic that right after me posting about dems lying about the severity of the virus, you go on to do exactly that! No one is dying right now-at least not that I’ve realized.
    As far as Crown Heights, I can tell you right now as a crownheightser that there are no empty seats in shuls. 770 is packed to capacity as always – you can head over yourself and check it out. Everyone is welcome to join, of course. Just don’t impose on us any of your liberal ideas, or else we’ll pelt you with esrogim!

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