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  • #2031620
    commonsaychel
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    I know there are a number of frum elected officals, other then in Israel I was wondering where else visable frum [like wearing shaytil / yalmulkes] people have gotten elected. I know there are quite a number in NY and NJ.

    #2031651
    ujm
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    The frum community is much better off — and more effective in the halls of power — finding a gentile that we elect into office, that works for our communal needs, than to have a Jewish or frum person serve in office for us.

    #2031662
    AviraDeArah
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    Ujm, i agree that that’s usually the caae, but there have been some frum politicians that have been true שלוחי דרבנן

    #2031769
    commonsaychel
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    UJM I guess you dont know how to read, I didnt ask for the halacha/ haskafa angle of it, just the actual number of frum elected people

    #2031805
    n0mesorah
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    Jason Stein in Cleveland.

    Yitzy Schliefer in Baltimore.

    #2031811
    Gadolhadorah
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    When you add the “visible” caveat to frum, relatively few outside the NY/NJ metro area. Very small numbers of elected/appointed officials in Maryland, Illinois, Florida, Colorado and Florida and in those cases just one or two, unless you get down the very local board levels where you may have several more.

    #2031826
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Gadol,

    Yeah, though orthodox or maybe even conservative but visibly Jewish without necessarily frum dress is relatively much more prevalent outside the Greater New York Area.

    #2031818
    Little Froggie
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    “UJM I guess you dont know how to read..”

    1) Maybe he knows how to read but chose not to
    2) Maybe he read and is not addressing the question
    3) Maybe that’s his way of addressing the question
    4) Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about

    #2031840
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Me……
    Not currently holding an elected post, gave that up when I turned 62, but on a Town Commission, elected member of the Democratic Town Committee, delegate to Sate and National Party Conventions for 40+ years.
    In my previous town, I served two terms elected to the Legislative Council
    In my current Town of more than 30 years:
    I was elected and reelected to the Town Council
    Elected and served a 5 year term on Planning and Zoning Commission
    Elected and served a 4 year term on Board of Education
    This is in Connecticut.

    My eldest sister was elected and served a term on the School Committee (what they call Board of Education) in her Boston area town, Her eldest daughter was elected and served a term on their Town Council, she did not seek reelection as she was hired as a school employee and it would have been a conflict of interest.

    #2031875
    ujm
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    CS: I read it quite well. I simply decided to ignore what you asked for.

    #2032031
    commonsaychel
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    UJM: learn to seperate fact from opinion
    for example:
    Fact: Leafs fall from the tree during autumn
    Opinion 1 Its a great time of year becuase get to see the fall foilage
    Opinion 2 It an annoying time of year becaus to have to rake up all the leafs

    #2032040
    ujm
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    CS: I’m not a journalist.

    #2032058
    commonsaychel
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    My Brother told me there are qute a number of frum elected people in London

    #2032073
    Gadolhadorah
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    “I’m not a journalist…
    Azoy. And we thought you were on the staff of The Forward.

    #2032257
    commonsaychel
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    @GH, there was a frum assemblyman in IL. serveral State elected official in NY and NJ I think in CA as well, I know at the local level we have quite a few

    #2032322
    Kuvult
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    Maryland has a Frum delegate in the State House.
    Dalya Attar graduated Bais Yaakov then became a Lawyer.

    #2032335

    There are many Jews who occupy a position of politician’s in-laws. Clinton, Trump, Biden ..

    #2032341
    yungermanS
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    Lakewood NJ has many jewish elected officials on many different levels from township positions to senators to board positions

    #2032395
    commonsaychel
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    @yungernanS is there a frum person who was elected in Jackson?

    #2032403
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Common,

    There was a write in for an empty seat on the BOE last year. He lost reelection this year.

    #2032536
    yungermanS
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    Commonsaychel

    Yes
    There’s a Jewish board member on the Jackson board of Education his name is Tzvi Herman

    #2032695
    commonsaychel
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    I was checking around there are 15 Village/ Towns / Cities with majority frum boards and about the same amount with at least 1 member.
    Majority frum boards:
    Lawrence
    Cedarhurst
    Ramapo
    Spring Valley
    Airmont
    New Hempstead
    Wesly Hills
    Pomona
    New Sqaure
    Kasir
    KJ
    South Blooming Grove
    Bloomingburg
    Passaic
    Teaneck
    Lakewood

    #2080257
    commonsaychel
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    Right before Peasch there was a special election in the 5 towns for a vacant State Assembly position, a frum Republican named Ari Brown won the election becoming the first frum republican to win election to the state legislature in NYS [ there are already 3 frum democrats]

    #2080307
    ☕️coffee addict
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    The democrat he was running against is also frum but it seems like he suffered “the Biden effect”

    #2080316
    Gadolhadorah
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    Does anyone regard ANY yid serving in Congress as borderline frum or “observant” to any degree. Since Joe Lieberman, not sure if any of the 535 members would be regarded as living a religious lifestyle in minimal terms of shomer shabbos and kashruth?

    #2080335
    ujm
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    Joe Lieberman, who originally called himself Orthodox, later changed his description to not be Orthodox not rather traditional, as his public positions often were against Torah Judaism.

    Pirkei Avos has a comment regarding public officials.

    #2080350
    commonsaychel
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    @coffee addict, when the democrat candidate would not say who he supported for president in 2020 it shows a lot about the courage of his convictions.

    #2080522
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Commonsaychel,

    Either that or he didn’t want to be alienated by his democrat base so he didn’t want to make it an issue

    #2080523
    Amil Zola
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    I’ve been elected to the board of ed locally and appointed to some standing state wide commissions and currently sit on the school district curriculum advisory committee. Like CT I’ve attended political conventions as a delegate, (national and state wide). I also held statewide office for my union, and later sat on it’s finance committee.

    #2080551
    commonsaychel
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    @coffee addict, He was asked point blank this question during a interview and he would not answer the question, wow that really shows backbone.
    @Amil, being elected in a union post is meaningless because unless you a member of that union you can’t vote, its like saying one was elected to the NRA or AARP.

    #2080559
    Amil Zola
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    CS Just like when someone is elected to the board of a Jewish concern, be it educational or charitable. By you those votes wouldn’t count because they are closed elections. Ok I can see where you are coming from.

    #2080567
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Commonsaychel,

    If he voted for trump he doesn’t want his democrat base to know that

    He has said that the reason he is on the democrat ticket is because they hold the majority and you can’t get things done being in the minority

    #2080581
    commonsaychel
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    @ Amil, yep this thread is about frum people who were elected to a local governmental position open to all people to chose, to be elected to a charity, political party post or a union is not like being elected by all people.


    @Coffee
    , Mr. Lobl was a Democratic political operative for many years, in fact worked directly for Andy Cuomo, to pretend otherwise is disingenuous. As to the silly argument about the majority, Missy Miller who held the seat till now was GOP and the 5 towns did not suffer, Monsey is represented by Mike Lawler who is GOP and Monsey did not suffer.

    #2080898
    modern
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    In addition to Sen. Lieberman, former Congressman Peter Deutsch is orthodox. After serving in Congress he moved to Israel.

    Members of Congress who have belonged to orthodox synagogues include James Schuer, who represented at times parts of the Bronx and Queens; Arlen Specter, who represented Pennsylvania in the US Senate, and current MD Sen. Ben Cardin.

    #2080899

    maybe we need to expand what “visible” is – this does not have to be a tall hat (Lincoln and Kennedy had that also) but might be how people walk, talk, and behave. Kiso, koso, vekaaso.

    #2080984
    Avi K
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    Montreal has a Chassidic (Vizhnitzer) woman borough councilor. Her name is Mindy Pollak and she speaks English, French and Yiddish, wears a sheitel and did not shake hands with men during her campaign. She was approached to run for the federal Parliament but turned it down because she wants to finish what she started.

    #2080991
    Avi K
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    UJM, Agudat Yisrael was represented in the Polish Sejm. Rabbi Meir Shapiro was a member for several years but stepped down to concentrate on building his yeshiva.

    #2080996
    Avi K
    Participant

    Correction: Pollak is not married (or at least was not when she ran) so apparently it is her hair.

    #2081003
    ujm
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    Avi: What is your objection? What Pirkei Avos says about this?

    #2081154

    R Mordechai Dubin was in Latvian parliament

    #2081157
    commonsaychel
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    @ Avi K, Nat Lewin grandfather the Rasha Rav was elected to the Polish Sejm as well.

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