April 10, 2012 12:31 am at 12:31 am #602864
Is the current location of the City of Bnei Brak on the same spot as where Bnei Brak was during Chazal’s time?
And when was the original city built and destroyed?
And when the current city was built about 100 years ago, how did they know where the original one was located, considering it no longer existed as an inhabited city?April 10, 2012 2:29 am at 2:29 am #866985dash™Participant
It is not the same city. At the time of the founding of the modern city there was an arab villige named Ibn Ibraq at the site of the ancient city which is now the Hiriya landfill.April 10, 2012 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #866986
dash: What causes you to think that Ibn Ibrak was the same city, or on the site of it, as the original Bnei Brak?April 10, 2012 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #866987mom12Participant
shmoel: he/she specifically said it’s not. read carefully…April 10, 2012 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #866988April 10, 2012 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #866989
Wikipedia or Google is hardly a reliable source for ancient Jewish history.April 10, 2012 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #866990
shmoel- I think its fair to say that wikipedia is 99% accurate.April 10, 2012 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #866991
Yungerman – Not even close, when it comes to Jewish history.April 10, 2012 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #866992
shmoel- Care to provide examples?April 10, 2012 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #866993
One example off the top of my head is it has the years wrong for the Beis Hamikdash.April 11, 2012 11:21 am at 11:21 am #866994frumisraelMember
I agree that Wiki is not a good source. With that said, the Beni Brak referred to in the hagadda text was further south by the modern day Tzomet Messubim, which takes its name from the text of that very paragraph.
There is an opinion that I did see in one hagadda a number of years ago that the bnei brak in the hagadda was not a place but camme from the word “mavrik” shiny – as in the utensils, pots, and whatnot that were on the tables were in a state befitting a yom tov, but I think while nice, that does not seem to be the meaning and I had only seen it in one place.
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