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  • #2069925
    crazy horse
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    I’m just bringing awareness to kids who bring in these really loud graggers, horns and who knows what else, hurting everyone’s ears and making them deaf.
    please recognize other people’s gashmius should be your ruchnius.

    #2069957
    Gadolhadorah
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    Using airhorns or superloud groggers is mamash a “physical assault” on those around you, especially for the elderly and those with tinnitus.

    #2069985
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Those same people go to weddings where the decibel level is way louder and possibly even sports games

    #2070007
    crazy horse
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    letsonis isn’t appreciated, coffeeaddict .

    #2070053
    Ng76b3c
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    I noticed that people who are depressed all year will be depressed on Purim as well finding some excuse to scream and get angry at innocent kids that want to clap by hammon Maybe the complainers should stay home and read the Megila to themselves

    #2070101
    themayo
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    im the happiest guy in town and at the bitter end of a hard long fast i found the loud horns and graggers very annoying dont know maybe im getting old

    #2070232
    huju
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    Anybody who uses an airhorn indoors or near people is dangerous, not just annoying and inconsiderate. As for graggers at the mention of Haman during the reading of the Megillah, well, that’s the deal.

    #2070285
    commonsaychel
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    I agree with coffee addict, purim is once a year and wedding are much louder

    #2070557
    ari-free
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    There were people who wanted to abolish the minhag of groggers because they made too much noise. The Rema wrote against those who would try to abolish or belittle any minhag of klal yisroel

    #2070586
    anonymouse1079
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    I’m with OP. The first time I took my daughter to hear megilla (she was already 4 r 5) , someone had brought a vuvuzela for Haman and then end of that long horn was right by us. By the last few perakim, she was literally in tears from the noise. Since then, I davka look for quiet, almost Haman-noiseless readings

    #2070697
    AviraDeArah
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    The minhag is/was to use graggers, “klap”, or stamp your feet by haman(i do the latter). There never was a minhag to make noises so loud that it causes discomfort to many people, and causes them to possibly lose concentration on listening to every word (an important but neglected halacha)

    #2070792

    Mishna Berura suggests that the father reads Megilah at home to his young daughters instead if going to woman’s section where people are talking and you can’t hear anything. If the same is happening in the whole shul, then, would this logic apply? The difference is that men should listen a a community, so is it better to read at home and hear everything or be part of the community and miss a lot? Mayb e do both.

    #2070802
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    In 50 years of listening to Mesilla on the women’s side, I have not ever, not once, had that experience.

    #2070952
    user176
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    Obviously, people should be considerate and teach their children the same. Children who do not understand the concept of being considerate should not be present at the megila reading. Every word must be heard, Purim is fun, but it’s not a joke. These things are obvious and should not have to be said at all. Of course, the Baal Kore should recognize when people are making loud noises and pause and repeat any words that may have been missed. Again, common sense to anyone who knows that you have to hear every word.

    #2073829
    efshar azoi
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    if the noise bothers you and you made a simcha where you instructed the musicians to keep the volume down, then you arent a complete hypocrite. But if not, you have nothing to say about this!

    #2073838
    efshar azoi
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    also, if you dont like the loud groggers but beep your horn liberally while you drive, i have no pity on you.

    #2073954
    crazy horse
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    efsharazoi listen, understand, empathy. these should be jewish traits.

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