loud graggers during haman
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March 17, 2022 1:56 am at 1:56 am #2069925
I’m just bringing awareness to kids who bring in these really loud graggers, horns and who knows what else, hurting everyone’s ears and making them deaf.
please recognize other people’s gashmius should be your ruchnius.March 17, 2022 10:17 am at 10:17 am #2069957GadolhadorahParticipant
Using airhorns or superloud groggers is mamash a “physical assault” on those around you, especially for the elderly and those with tinnitus.March 17, 2022 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #2069985☕️coffee addictParticipant
Those same people go to weddings where the decibel level is way louder and possibly even sports gamesMarch 17, 2022 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #2070007
letsonis isn’t appreciated, coffeeaddict .March 18, 2022 9:29 am at 9:29 am #2070053Ng76b3cParticipant
I noticed that people who are depressed all year will be depressed on Purim as well finding some excuse to scream and get angry at innocent kids that want to clap by hammon Maybe the complainers should stay home and read the Megila to themselvesMarch 18, 2022 10:57 am at 10:57 am #2070101themayoParticipant
im the happiest guy in town and at the bitter end of a hard long fast i found the loud horns and graggers very annoying dont know maybe im getting oldMarch 18, 2022 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #2070232hujuParticipant
Anybody who uses an airhorn indoors or near people is dangerous, not just annoying and inconsiderate. As for graggers at the mention of Haman during the reading of the Megillah, well, that’s the deal.March 18, 2022 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #2070285commonsaychelParticipant
I agree with coffee addict, purim is once a year and wedding are much louderMarch 20, 2022 7:13 am at 7:13 am #2070557ari-freeParticipant
There were people who wanted to abolish the minhag of groggers because they made too much noise. The Rema wrote against those who would try to abolish or belittle any minhag of klal yisroelMarch 20, 2022 7:20 am at 7:20 am #2070586anonymouse1079Participant
I’m with OP. The first time I took my daughter to hear megilla (she was already 4 r 5) , someone had brought a vuvuzela for Haman and then end of that long horn was right by us. By the last few perakim, she was literally in tears from the noise. Since then, I davka look for quiet, almost Haman-noiseless readingsMarch 20, 2022 11:06 am at 11:06 am #2070697AviraDeArahParticipant
The minhag is/was to use graggers, “klap”, or stamp your feet by haman(i do the latter). There never was a minhag to make noises so loud that it causes discomfort to many people, and causes them to possibly lose concentration on listening to every word (an important but neglected halacha)March 20, 2022 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #2070792Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Mishna Berura suggests that the father reads Megilah at home to his young daughters instead if going to woman’s section where people are talking and you can’t hear anything. If the same is happening in the whole shul, then, would this logic apply? The difference is that men should listen a a community, so is it better to read at home and hear everything or be part of the community and miss a lot? Mayb e do both.March 20, 2022 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #2070802🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
In 50 years of listening to Mesilla on the women’s side, I have not ever, not once, had that experience.March 20, 2022 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #2070952user176Participant
Obviously, people should be considerate and teach their children the same. Children who do not understand the concept of being considerate should not be present at the megila reading. Every word must be heard, Purim is fun, but it’s not a joke. These things are obvious and should not have to be said at all. Of course, the Baal Kore should recognize when people are making loud noises and pause and repeat any words that may have been missed. Again, common sense to anyone who knows that you have to hear every word.March 29, 2022 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #2073829efshar azoiParticipant
if the noise bothers you and you made a simcha where you instructed the musicians to keep the volume down, then you arent a complete hypocrite. But if not, you have nothing to say about this!March 29, 2022 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #2073838efshar azoiParticipant
also, if you dont like the loud groggers but beep your horn liberally while you drive, i have no pity on you.March 29, 2022 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #2073954
efsharazoi listen, understand, empathy. these should be jewish traits.
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