Maariv Minyanim During Curfew
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June 2, 2020 10:03 am at 10:03 am #1866757
NYC curfew begins Tuesday at 8:00 PM. How will Minyanim be held for Maariv?June 2, 2020 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm #1866903puttinginmy2centsParticipant
My Rav already sent emails that mincha will be at 6:33 (before plag) and maariv right after plag.June 2, 2020 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm #1866908DOEYeshivaParticipant
Don’t know but we can do plag minyan at 7?June 2, 2020 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1866919rkefratParticipant
Daven mincha before plag and maariv after plag.June 2, 2020 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1866920AyiddishekupParticipant
Maybe daven at plag ?June 2, 2020 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1866928PekakParticipant
This curfew is possibly more about your personal safety than the Corona lockdowns. Daven at home!June 2, 2020 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1866932☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Ashkenaz will start with V’hu Rachum, Sefard will start with Shir Hamaalos.June 2, 2020 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1866943☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Seriously, the cops have been told to allow people to go to minyan.
Interesting shaila though, if it wasn’t feasible to get to minyan, some shuls (and their satelite outdoor minyanim) were scheduling Mincha/Maariv around Plag although really it’s better to daven b’ychidus and not do tarti d’sasri.June 2, 2020 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1866959
What about Maariv motzoi Shabbos (we generally do not daven Maariv early on motzoi Shabbos)?June 2, 2020 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1866967
There is a Lubavitch Web site reporting that cops were told not to issue summons to those attending minyan or mikva (before vasikin). But how will the cops know who is attending minyan or mikva?June 2, 2020 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1867000
The police will not interfere with Minyanim regardless of how late the Minyan is?June 2, 2020 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1867010puttinginmy2centsParticipant
*Message from Councilman Chaim Deutsch:*
I have received many concerned calls regarding tonight’s curfew, which is beginning at 8pm. I have been in touch with police officials to express concerns about the curfew limiting people’s ability to attend maariv or the mikvah. Cops will be instructed to allow for religious obligations and not issue summonses.
If you should face an issue during curfew that requires my intervention, please immediately contact Flatbush Shomrim (718-338-9797), who will refer these calls directly to me. If you have any questions, contact me directly at [email protected].June 2, 2020 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1867177MilhouseParticipant
There is a Lubavitch Web site reporting that cops were told not to issue summons to those attending minyan or mikva (before vasikin). But how will the cops know who is attending minyan or mikva?
mik5, what has vasikin got to do with this? The reference is OBVIOUSLY to those using the mikveh at night, which we all know who that refers to.June 2, 2020 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #1867192
True, but there are men who immerse before davening, especially by the Chassidim.June 2, 2020 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #1867240
mik5: How many chassidim go to the mikveh before mincha and maariv?June 2, 2020 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1867257
lot112: They go before 5 AM.June 3, 2020 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1867269yitzymotchaParticipant
Mi Kamcha Yisroel
The mayor says there will be a curfew so Yiddin scramble as responsible law abiding citizens to determine how they can observe the curfew yet go to shul and mikva.
Meanwhile the curfew comes and goes and thousands of protesters are on the streets.June 3, 2020 9:18 am at 9:18 am #1867345
Davening maariv before shkia and supper, is better than after both.June 3, 2020 10:21 am at 10:21 am #1867363
Joseph: as announced by both Councilman Deutsch and Yeruchem Silber of Agudas Yisroel, mikveh and minyan are essential religious services and are exempt from the curfew.June 3, 2020 10:59 am at 10:59 am #1867420
What’s to stop anyone from violating the curfew at any time and simply claim they’re headed to or headed back from religious services, if stopped by police?June 3, 2020 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #1867452
Joseph: You are correct. But I am not sure how many of the protestors are going to claim mikveh and minyan?June 3, 2020 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1867545History BuffParticipant
Can you see the looters wearing hats and jackets and explaining to the police they were headed home after maariv by way of the Rolex store?June 3, 2020 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #1867546History BuffParticipant
The Modern Orthodox looters can wear Yarmulkas, no black hats.June 5, 2020 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1868299charliehallParticipant
That is a distortion of Torah. Maariv isn’t even an obligatory service al pi halachah, there is no chiyuv to daven with a minyan, and in extenuating circumstances one can immerse during the day; I know some women who are doing that.June 5, 2020 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #18683992scentsParticipant
I hope that by now all shulls and other vital religious services are back open.
In the tristate area, this has been going on for a few weeks, with zero upward trends in COVID cases.
The very same people that made it illegal for us to daven together and have been promoting shutting down shulls and schools are actually encouraging the BLM protests.
Us regular people, are the suckers and are pawns in these politician’s political games.June 8, 2020 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1869144
You are conflating legislation and leadership. If you do not like the result, separate the two and follow your leader. I see nothing to complain about.June 8, 2020 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #18691982scentsParticipant
“You are conflating legislation and leadership. If you do not like the result, separate the two and follow your leader. I see nothing to complain about.’
However, leadership the very same people that created the legislation were supposedly using science as the basis of their decisions.
It turns out, that they have a different set of rules depending on the target audience.
This is anti-science.
We, the regular person that had to give up some of our liberties, access to health care (the elective portion) and livelihood might have done so in vain.June 8, 2020 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #1869357
Your first sentence is unclear to me. Legislators are not scientists. Their work is reactionary and not one bit empirical. We did not have to give up any of our liberties because of the Government. This is not China. Protesters were not given any access to elective health care. Nor, where any businesses allowed to open to assist the protests. This seems to be a game of make believe victim.
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