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  • #609283
    blackhatwannabe
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    Is one chayiv to give maaser over wedding money when in one is being supported by their parents?

    #951996
    147
    Participant

    Absolutely;

    Even Aniyim have to give Maaser on what they receive.

    No-one is off the hook for Maaser money, just as no-one is off the hook to go & perform Jury Duty.

    #951997
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    will you give maaser every month on the money your parents give you

    #951998
    Sam2
    Participant

    By wedding money do you mean money received to help pay for the wedding or do you mean wedding presents?

    #951999
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    No, if you only have enough money for your basic needs you do not give maaser. You are patur. If your parents are giving you money for a specific purpose it is assur to give the money to tzedaka. You must use the money for what your parents gave it to you for.

    #952000
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.

    #952001
    HaKatan
    Participant

    Ask your LOR (of course).

    While it is true that even an ani has a mitzva of tzedaka, that does not mean they have a chiyuv maaser.

    #952002
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.

    Yes, but I don’t disagree with his comparison. 😉

    #952003
    SaysMe
    Member

    Do you have to give maaser on gifts? Same as birthday money?

    #952004
    E-O-M
    Participant

    Congratulations/mazal/mazel/Tov/tuf on your wedding!

    May you both have a long happy life and many children

    #952005
    Sam2
    Participant

    Daniel Rosen: You misread the case (I think; it’s slightly ambiguous but neither is the way you read it). The person is supported by their parents and got presents for their wedding. Of course they have to give Ma’aser on those presents. If they received money from Tzedaka Davka for the wedding then there might be what to discuss.

    #952006
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    BHW, why don’t you ask a Rav?

    #952007
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You don’t have to pay tax on gifts, so why should you have to give maaser?

    Also, if you sell marijuana in Colorado, are you allowed to deduct overhead from your maaser calculation, because you can’t deduct it from your taxes because of 280E.

    #952008
    blackhatwannabe
    Participant

    Sam2-I was referring to wedding gifts

    #952009
    Sam2
    Participant

    PBA: Because Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?

    #952010
    yitzchokm
    Participant

    Sam2

    wait!!

    dina d’malchuta dina!

    dina d’malchuta dina!

    dina d’malchuta dina!

    lol

    #952011
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Because Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?

    What happened to dina d’malchusa dina?

    😉

    Edit: Yitzchokm’s post wasn’t up when I posted. Baruch shekivanti.

    #952012

    147 and Daneil Rosen, I think you are both wrong but DR is closer to being right.

    All people must give tzidaka (charity), however masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag). if you are being supported i.e. taking tzidaka to live, then it is worth talking to a rabbi, because there are strong grounds not to give masser as well as other halachos related to money, such as shopping in a Jewish store even if it is more expensive.

    #952013
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    however masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag)

    That’s a machlokes.

    #952014
    ChanieE
    Participant

    It’s not so clear that ma’aser is due on cash or cash equivalents. D’oraisa it’s on agricultural products and it’s a machlokes whether the obligation extends to money. Even accepting that ma’aser does apply to money, there are differences of opinion as to which expenses reduce the amount of income subject to ma’aser.

    #952015
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    the voice of reason: Thank you for saying you think I am closer to being right but why do you think I am wrong as well?

    #952016
    Sam2
    Participant

    tvor: Ma’aser K’safim, B’pashtus, is an Chiyuv D’rabannan.

    Yitzchokm: I’m not denying Dina D’malchusa nor the fact that it applies more widely than some people think (I think we’ve had this discussion before). I’m just saying that American tax law is not the same as the Chiyuv of Ma’aser Kesafim.

    #952017

    @DR

    There is a distinction between tzedaka and masser. everyone must give tzadaka, but masser is much more complex.

    You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.

    #952018
    Daniel Rosen
    Member

    “everyone must give tzadaka….You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.”

    Why? If you only have enough for your most basic needs and are living off tzedaka from your parents you are patur from maaser and tzedaka. You must take care of yourself before others. The question of the OP was not even about tzedaka but about maaser.

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