May 10, 2013 2:07 am at 2:07 am #609283blackhatwannabeParticipant
Is one chayiv to give maaser over wedding money when in one is being supported by their parents?May 10, 2013 2:42 am at 2:42 am #951996147Participant
Even Aniyim have to give Maaser on what they receive.
No-one is off the hook for Maaser money, just as no-one is off the hook to go & perform Jury Duty.May 10, 2013 2:59 am at 2:59 am #951997popa_bar_abbaParticipant
will you give maaser every month on the money your parents give youMay 10, 2013 3:45 am at 3:45 am #951998
By wedding money do you mean money received to help pay for the wedding or do you mean wedding presents?May 10, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am #951999
No, if you only have enough money for your basic needs you do not give maaser. You are patur. If your parents are giving you money for a specific purpose it is assur to give the money to tzedaka. You must use the money for what your parents gave it to you for.May 10, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #952000
147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.May 10, 2013 4:08 am at 4:08 am #952001HaKatanParticipant
Ask your LOR (of course).
While it is true that even an ani has a mitzva of tzedaka, that does not mean they have a chiyuv maaser.May 10, 2013 4:22 am at 4:22 am #952002
147 is completely wrong and ignorant of halacha.
Yes, but I don’t disagree with his comparison. 😉May 10, 2013 4:33 am at 4:33 am #952003SaysMeMember
Do you have to give maaser on gifts? Same as birthday money?May 10, 2013 4:35 am at 4:35 am #952004E-O-MParticipant
Congratulations/mazal/mazel/Tov/tuf on your wedding!
May you both have a long happy life and many childrenMay 10, 2013 4:36 am at 4:36 am #952005
Daniel Rosen: You misread the case (I think; it’s slightly ambiguous but neither is the way you read it). The person is supported by their parents and got presents for their wedding. Of course they have to give Ma’aser on those presents. If they received money from Tzedaka Davka for the wedding then there might be what to discuss.May 10, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am #952006Torah613TorahParticipant
BHW, why don’t you ask a Rav?May 10, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #952007popa_bar_abbaParticipant
You don’t have to pay tax on gifts, so why should you have to give maaser?
Also, if you sell marijuana in Colorado, are you allowed to deduct overhead from your maaser calculation, because you can’t deduct it from your taxes because of 280E.May 10, 2013 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #952008blackhatwannabeParticipant
Sam2-I was referring to wedding giftsMay 10, 2013 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm #952009
PBA: Because Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?May 10, 2013 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #952010yitzchokmParticipant
dina d’malchuta dina!
dina d’malchuta dina!
dina d’malchuta dina!
lolMay 10, 2013 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #952011
Because Halachah isn’t dictated by American tax law?
What happened to dina d’malchusa dina?
Edit: Yitzchokm’s post wasn’t up when I posted. Baruch shekivanti.May 10, 2013 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #952012the voice of reasonMember
147 and Daneil Rosen, I think you are both wrong but DR is closer to being right.
All people must give tzidaka (charity), however masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag). if you are being supported i.e. taking tzidaka to live, then it is worth talking to a rabbi, because there are strong grounds not to give masser as well as other halachos related to money, such as shopping in a Jewish store even if it is more expensive.May 10, 2013 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #952013
however masser (10%) is not an obligation but good hanhaga (maybe a minhag)
That’s a machlokes.May 10, 2013 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #952014ChanieEParticipant
It’s not so clear that ma’aser is due on cash or cash equivalents. D’oraisa it’s on agricultural products and it’s a machlokes whether the obligation extends to money. Even accepting that ma’aser does apply to money, there are differences of opinion as to which expenses reduce the amount of income subject to ma’aser.May 10, 2013 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #952015
the voice of reason: Thank you for saying you think I am closer to being right but why do you think I am wrong as well?May 10, 2013 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #952016
tvor: Ma’aser K’safim, B’pashtus, is an Chiyuv D’rabannan.
Yitzchokm: I’m not denying Dina D’malchusa nor the fact that it applies more widely than some people think (I think we’ve had this discussion before). I’m just saying that American tax law is not the same as the Chiyuv of Ma’aser Kesafim.May 10, 2013 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #952017the voice of reasonMember
There is a distinction between tzedaka and masser. everyone must give tzadaka, but masser is much more complex.
You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.May 10, 2013 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #952018
“everyone must give tzadaka….You are right that you 147 cannot say he must give masser, but he must give something.”
Why? If you only have enough for your most basic needs and are living off tzedaka from your parents you are patur from maaser and tzedaka. You must take care of yourself before others. The question of the OP was not even about tzedaka but about maaser.
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