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  • January 27, 2013 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #607985
    playtime
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    Why is it that Frum Yidden

    Defend a Republican to no end.

    When the republican doesn’t support Israel,

    We trash the Republican to no end

    And defend the Isaeli PM to no end.

    When the Israeli PM stands up against Chareidim,

    We trash the PM to no end, and distance ourselves from the ‘Medina’

    When Israel accomplishes a feat, we praise the PM to no end.

    Does this make any sense?

    January 27, 2013 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1016308
    popa_bar_abba
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    I haven’t seen any contradiction so far…

    January 27, 2013 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #1016309
    avhaben
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    You got the facts wrong. Or, I should say that your questions only applies to those guilty of what you say. As to the rest of us, we don’t defend the medina or its PM at all. (Nor do we uncritically support Republicans, though 95 out of 100 times they are the better deal than the alternative.)

    January 27, 2013 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1016310
    playtime
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    What I mean to say, is that don’t we confuse our heroes?

    January 28, 2013 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1016311
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I don’t think anyone mentioned is one of our heroes.

    January 28, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am #1016312
    HaLeiVi
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    What about our Father in Heaven? First He warns about trouble if we don’t repent, then He speaks of being very angry. Then, after the Churban, He cries and laments, Kibyachol.

    January 28, 2013 6:19 am at 6:19 am #1016313
    ZeesKite
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    HaLeiVi: I thought you knew all of Medrash. I think Medrah in Eicha somewhere says it makes a lot of sense.

    January 28, 2013 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #1016314
    playtime
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    The Chareidi Media NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS. They tell heroic stories of Rabin and Antebbi, Begin bombing Iraq, and Netanyahu giving a speech to joint congress. But when the issue of the draft comes up, they act like they never liked the Medina in the first place. ALL Frum publications do this – and we all go along with it.

    They never could take their own perspective on any issue, and have to follow the rest of the pro-israel media, until they hit a dead end when Chareidim are challenged.

    I’ll give another example:

    Just because Orthodox Jews concur with the Republican party regarding moral issues, we suddenly have to agree with them on Immigration?! Does that make any sense? Cant we ever take our own stand?

    May 23, 2014 12:55 am at 12:55 am #1016315
    PulsingFlower
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    No. Ayin Shut Achiezer (OC 743:34) And rambam hilchos Politicos Assuros 8:32 and Raavad there.

    May 23, 2014 4:02 am at 4:02 am #1016316
    To be or not to be
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    I’m sure he remembers writing this

    May 23, 2014 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #1016317
    PulsingFlower
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    That’s what makes it all the funner.

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