Make up your mind
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January 27, 2013 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #607985playtimeMember
Why is it that Frum Yidden
Defend a Republican to no end.
When the republican doesn’t support Israel,
We trash the Republican to no end
And defend the Isaeli PM to no end.
When the Israeli PM stands up against Chareidim,
We trash the PM to no end, and distance ourselves from the ‘Medina’
When Israel accomplishes a feat, we praise the PM to no end.
Does this make any sense?
January 27, 2013 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1016308popa_bar_abbaParticipantI haven’t seen any contradiction so far…
January 27, 2013 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #1016309avhabenParticipantYou got the facts wrong. Or, I should say that your questions only applies to those guilty of what you say. As to the rest of us, we don’t defend the medina or its PM at all. (Nor do we uncritically support Republicans, though 95 out of 100 times they are the better deal than the alternative.)
January 27, 2013 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1016310playtimeMemberWhat I mean to say, is that don’t we confuse our heroes?
January 28, 2013 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1016311☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t think anyone mentioned is one of our heroes.
January 28, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am #1016312HaLeiViParticipantWhat about our Father in Heaven? First He warns about trouble if we don’t repent, then He speaks of being very angry. Then, after the Churban, He cries and laments, Kibyachol.
January 28, 2013 6:19 am at 6:19 am #1016313ZeesKiteParticipantHaLeiVi: I thought you knew all of Medrash. I think Medrah in Eicha somewhere says it makes a lot of sense.
January 28, 2013 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #1016314playtimeMemberThe Chareidi Media NEVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS. They tell heroic stories of Rabin and Antebbi, Begin bombing Iraq, and Netanyahu giving a speech to joint congress. But when the issue of the draft comes up, they act like they never liked the Medina in the first place. ALL Frum publications do this – and we all go along with it.
They never could take their own perspective on any issue, and have to follow the rest of the pro-israel media, until they hit a dead end when Chareidim are challenged.
I’ll give another example:
Just because Orthodox Jews concur with the Republican party regarding moral issues, we suddenly have to agree with them on Immigration?! Does that make any sense? Cant we ever take our own stand?
May 23, 2014 12:55 am at 12:55 am #1016315PulsingFlowerMemberNo. Ayin Shut Achiezer (OC 743:34) And rambam hilchos Politicos Assuros 8:32 and Raavad there.
May 23, 2014 4:02 am at 4:02 am #1016316To be or not to beMemberI’m sure he remembers writing this
May 23, 2014 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #1016317PulsingFlowerMemberThat’s what makes it all the funner.
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