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    Mamashtakah, I have never read such propaganda since the days of the defunct Soviet papers.

    My averois here in a place where we are bringing people back to Yiddishkeit, including refugees from the medine who were tired of being seen as low-class Russians and came back to live as proud Jews, are worth more than your questionable mitzvah of yishuv ha-aretz. How dare you say that our mitzvos don’t count? Some of us pay for your ill and injured via Yad Sarah, Rav Grossman, Meir Panim etc, none of which would exist without donors from chu’l and all of which exist because the heartless, incompetent medine has so many holes in its safety net. I once helped to pay for a medication that is common in the US and even paid for by Medicaid to be brought by plane to a patient in EY because it was not a part of the infamous “basket” there and he could not possibly afford it on his own. That is a Jewish state? That is what I expect from a cultural Muslim with a father from a country where people live to be about 50 anyway, NOT what I expect from Yidden.

    Where are today’s trumois and maasrois going anyway with no beis hamikdosh? This is something I always wanted to understand.

    What is more, the chilonim are defiling land that belongs to me just as much as it does to you. The medine is like an incompetent security company that lets criminals and murderers run amok and instead punishes the good guys. We used to have a lot of corrupt security firms like that here in the 90’s. Like the medine, they took lots of money from the people who were forced to hire them. The medine calls it taxes, victims of the old Russian firms, myself somewhat included (I was forced to pay 20x the cost of hiring my own guard) used to call it protection money.

    Many US emigres to EY ramble online about how good it is and in reality they are suffering every day in every way and they rue the day they moved to EY. My friend works with kids from homes like that, where the parents’ misery leads the kids to go astray. Yes, he finds them on the famous Crack Square.

    ERETZ Yisroel and the medine are two separate entities. Many of the Jews living in EY are indeed victims of the medine. The medine is the only polity that has thrown Jews out of their houses since Libya in the 60’s. And innocent Jews in Kiev found their shuls vandalized after Gush Katif because the skinheads saw that Jews demolish their own shuls and lost all respect for us.

    #787927

    By the way, please take my advice about private insurance very seriously. There is now a doctor’s strike in EY because the doctors are fed up with getting bank teller salaries. (Some of the butchers from the FSU who “practice” medicine in EY are overpaid even at a dollar an hour as they would never get licensed in the US or Canada, but there are many fine doctors in EY who have had enough of the system and just can’t take it anymore.)

    Those who have private insurance of the type I recommended probably are not affected by the strike.

    #787928
    ItcheSrulik
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    “My averois here in a place where we are bringing people back to Yiddishkeit… are worth more than your questionable mitzvah of yishuv ha-aretz.”

    This is what is wrong with you kannoim. It isn’t a mitzvah, fine — there are such opinions. It’s better for my avodas Hashem in America — in hachi nami, stay gezunteheit. But you don’t leave it at that, you feel the need to attack everyone else and in doing so, say things that are beyond the pale of yiddishkeit. I once heard a proponent of this shita, not NK mind you, but mainstream as you please say that we shouldn’t care whether or not moshiach comes or daven for it because our tafkid is to stay in golus and moshiach will come whether we daven or not. He felt the need to say this because it happened to be the shabbos after 5 iyar. The Divrei Yoel zy”a himself falls into that trap in Vayoel Moshe (I believe siman 74, have to check) when he says davening is also a violation of the three oaths. I beg you as a fellow Jew, don’t let your kannaus make you say things you’ll regret after 120.

    #787929
    shlishi
    Member

    Very well said 600 Kilo.

    Yasher Koach

    #787931
    mamashtakah
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    How dare you say that our mitzvos don’t count?

    It’s in the Gemara. Go and learn.

    #787932

    And that quote taken out of context pertains to the present situation? Another reason why women should never learn Gemara, I guess.

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