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March 18, 2012 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1142263hello99Participant
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March 19, 2012 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1142264hello99ParticipantSam: Did you look up the Rashba? Was it helpful?
March 25, 2012 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1142265hello99ParticipantSam, was it helpful?
March 25, 2012 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1142266Sam2ParticipantHello: It didn’t help me understand your point, unless the Beis Yosef learns it differently (I haven’t had a chance to look there yet). I’m not sure why it’s based on Ma’amid. If we assume Ma’amid is Assur because the Issur is Nikeres, the Rashba says specifically that this is Assur in a case even where it’s not Nikeres. I get the feeling here that the Rashba is adding a new category here of something that was added intentionally (but not Bittul Lechatchila), which is Assur on its own right.
March 25, 2012 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #1142267hello99ParticipantSam: the Beis Yosef merely quotes the Rashba without adding anything of his own. The Rashba equates an intentionally added ingredient with Cheese, which is a Ma’amid. It doesn’t seem from his words to be an original category of “not Batel”.
I imagine his logic is that he defines the rationale of a Ma’amid slightly different than you did. I think he interprets the definition of Ma’amid as something that has been designated as significant to the final product. In cheese, for example, the coagulating effect of the rennet makes it significant. In the Rashba’s case, the intent by itself lends Chashivus to the ingredient. Also, presumably if it is an important component, it lends some influence to the final product.
March 14, 2016 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #1142268popa_bar_abbaParticipantI also bought some Pareve english muffins this week. Should we consider them also milchig?
March 14, 2016 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #1142269☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDoes it say sour cream in the ingredients?
March 14, 2016 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #1142270dovrosenbaumParticipantDoes the issur of making either meaty or dairy bread apply in a food service establishment that’s either all meat or all dairy?
March 14, 2016 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #1142271☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt should – lo plug. If it’s all used the day it’s baked, it’s okay, though.
March 14, 2016 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #1142272☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat depends on how you define the shidduch crisis.
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