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    yankae
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    How did men becoming a nurse become a thing?! Imagine this guy in a white nurses robe acting as if that’s something normal.

    It’s almost like a man becoming a secretary or maid/cleaning lady or flight attendant or something.

    And it’s almost as bad as a woman becoming a construction worker or truck driver or engineer or combat soldier or fireman or similar.

    What had this world come to? Didn’t we learn that putting men in women’s jobs and putting women in men’s jobs is what Pharaoh did in Mitzrayim?

    #2441749
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    In the early 1800s of the Common Era, all nurses were men.

    Then women entered nursing, and their numbers increased
    until men vanished from the nursing profession.

    If you watch carefully, there is a repeated pattern of
    women entering male professions, and then increasing
    until all of the men are pushed out of that profession.

    #2441750
    Hashemisreading
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    what is a nurses robe?

    #2441752
    akuperma
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    Wrong question. You should ask how WOMEN took over that profession (of persons less trained than physicians who care for patients). In the not too distant past, only men were allowed to perform that function (though women would perform it for women). Where is the heter for women to take care of unrelated males (which by definition includes seeing them undressed, and making physical contact)? For that matter, where is the heter for women to be treated by male doctors (and in many countries, women generally refuse treatment from male doctors, especially if female health care workers are available).

    The second half of the question “why now” has to do with the high cost of becoming a physician at least in America (and some would argue that American physicians are over trained). “Physician’s Assistants) and “Nurse Practitioners” have been increasingly providing primary care and some specialist services, even though their training is a fraction of the cost of physicians, and their pay is significantly lower. Many would be health care workers feel that the cost of becoming a physician isn’t worth the reward, and many health care providers consider it a waste of money to have an MD doing can be done just as well by a less expensive employee.

    #2441771
    Tvinla
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    Are you dumb or something?

    1) Nurses don’t wear white robes.

    2) Half of patients are male. Many would be more comfortable with male nurses.

    3) Male nurses can lift patients better with their stronger muscles.

    These are just the top 3 obvious reasons I thought of in 3 minutes.

    There’s nothing inherently female about being a nurse. Men didn’t enter the field until nurses started getting paid well, as they should for their heroic efforts and skills.

    It’s not nearly as bad as a woman being in those jobs you mentioned.
    You’re right, women should NOT be firefighters or construction workers.
    There’s nothing wrong with a man being a nurse.

    #2441980
    @fakenews
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    Troll

    #2442081
    akuperma
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    You are asking the wrong question? Until the 19th century, “nurses” (for male patients) were always male. The real shailoh is why do we have medical personnel treating persons of the opposite gender (especially in situations where modesty is an issue, such as for surgeons).

    #2442245
    SB613
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    Does a male PA make you feel better
    and if yes, why?

    #2442261
    chadbedoro95
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    %100 agreed

    #2442281
    FrumWhere
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    Unfortunately, it is worse than you might think. These male nurses are largely non-hetero, if you know what I mean…

    But I had an even worse experience at a major hospital in LA. After getting m treatment (from 3 male nurses, who were actually quite competent, I must admit), I went to get my car from the valet, and ALL the staff were ladies! And they weren’t very competent either, though no one put a dent in the door or bumper etc. Only almost…

    #2442712
    Gadolhadorah
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    While it was just rosh chodesh ELUL, apparently some just cannot wait for ADAR…..Bein hazmanim is OVER…..go back to your shtender and do tshuvah in your spare time

    #2442713
    none2.0
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    I don’t think it’s that bad. Nursing can be done by any gender. It’s too much in the middle to matter

    #2442628
    Kuvult
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    This was a compromise. Originally women wanted to be allowed to become Doctors & Surgeons (despite their brains being 30-40% smaller than males).
    A compromise was reached that women will be admitted to the nursing schools (but not the medical schools) & the rest is history.

    #2442428
    commonsaychel
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    We have to honestly thank Bibi Netanyahu for starving the terrorists of Gaza. Israel really should simply carpet bomb Gaza into to the stone age, or completely out of existence, as the late great Rabbi Meir Kahane of blessed memory wisely advocated.

    We all saw on October 7 how even the so-called “civilians” of Gaza actively participated in Pogram of that day. There are no civilians. Only current terrorists and future terrorists.

    Even the starvation of the children is simply protecting the State from those future terrorists.

    #2442468
    HaLeiVi
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    The way it seems from the Gemara, about half of the doctors were women.

    #2442541
    amom
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    Akuperma, There is definitely a heter for a female to use a male doctor or vice versa when the care is better.
    I don’t know about you, but I choose my doctors based on their skills, and many times it’s of the opposite gender.

    #2443170

    Yes, there is a heter, but there is also a place for tzniyut. Gemora Taanit talks about a very special doctor with more visits from the heavenly yeshiva than Abaye and Rava together – he had special clothes for women to wear during bloodletting, plus discounts and food for young (and thus not yet working and poor) talmidei chochomim.

    #2448793
    WolfishMusings
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    I’ve had a lot of exposure to nurses (particularly oncology nurses) over the last two and a half years. I have found that the quality of care I got from them has been equal. There was, to me, no appreciable difference if the nurse supervising my infusions was male or female.

    The Wolf

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