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anyone know which hotels in the NY-NJ area have manual locks on guest room doors? lately most hotels have electronic key cards, causing problems for frum people who want to stay in a hotel for Shabbos.
The Doubletree Hilton in Somerset does.
What should someone do if they are in a hotel for Shabbos that only has a electronic keycard?
Call your rabbi.
Once I was staying a hotel in Salt Lake, like a moron, for shabbos that only had electronic locks.
The rabbi I asked suggested that we leave the door unlocked, but said that if we get locked out, we can ask the hotel staff to let us in.
we were in a hotel with card for shabos..
The main door had t b opened by one of the workers. we had to make sure to use the main door.
in the room we put a piece of cardboard so the door does not lattch into hole.. then we put the ‘do not disturb’ sign so none of the cleaning crew come in.. besides how would you carry a key?
u would hide somewhere?
I’ve been at hotels for Pesach, as I’ve said in another thread, and we just leave the door unlocked. You can put in a door wedge and then use the chain when you’re inside, and when you’re outside nothing really happens.
Stamford Plaza has keys.
How do you carry your key to the front desk? Did you make an eiruv chatzerois? Did you find out if any other jews are in the hotel, and did you lease the public space from the hotel owner? I don’t see how a key is better.
How do you carry your key to the front desk? Did you make an eiruv chatzerois? Did you find out if any other jews are in the hotel, and did you lease the public space from the hotel owner? I don’t see how a key is better.
I would hope they would also have manual bagels.
squeak: Would you need an eruv in a hotel, or would we say is is all reshus hayachid of the hotelier?
squeak – It’s actually quite commonplace for Jews to lease the public space. I know someone who went to some random hotel for Shabbos and wanted to do so, and he was wondering what to say to the manager. As soon as he walked over to her though (and obviously he looked like an observant Jew) she said to him, “Oh, you’re here to give me the dollar?”
Popa, I am not knowledgable in hilchos eiruvin, but I assume that your room is a different reshus from the rest of the hotel and you would need an eiruv. I know that when frum groups go to hotels the organizer makes sure there is one person who takes care of the eiruv, but I thought the OP might be going alone. It is easy to make an eiruv chatzeiros but you have to know that you need one.
Shrek…
Just tell the front desk person ‘I am a Sabbath observer and so I’m not allowed, for religious reasons, to use the electronic door locks. but I need to get into my room’.
Usually you need not say any more than that. Unless the person is a total idiot they’ll say to you “No problem, I’ll send someone to open your door for you.”
In this way you have not even directly asked anyone to do it for you, and what you DID say wasn’t even said to the person who actually opened the door.
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