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I am curious to know where I can view some sort of map or chart (something like a family tree chart) showing how all Rebbes are related, or formed, from the Rebbe previously before them, starting all the way back to the Baal Shem Tov himself. Or can someone start it off, and continue. I know basically MOST Rebbes are generally related, although many aren’t, but certainly all the great Chassic Dynasties are connected.
A comprehensive family tree of chassidus is virtually impossible due to the overlap in the past few generations.
However, there is a very useful map starting with the Ba’al Shem Tov, giving a good view of the spreading of chassidus in Europe following the Maggid Dov Ber of Mezritch. It can be found in the book “????? ????????, ?? ????? ????? ????, ??????? ??????? ???? ?????, ??????? 2000? ????
It’s on page 125.
In addition, a well known and very detailed beginning family tree of chassidus (approximately till the mid 1800s)is in the Israel Museum’s exhibit on chassidus. Maybe you can find a link to it online. Hatzlachah.
i happen to have such a map. It is the size of two posters with pretty small font. It is included in a book of jewish history that maps out jewish history according to area and leaders of the time. (i dont recall the name of the book but it includes these maps. You could certainly get started on wikipedia. as well.
Nice thread. There are a couple of problems with this task. One problem is that some Chassidis’ just started out of the blue. The first Tosher Rebbe (my Great-Great-Great Grandfather) was born a non-Chassid and his town asked him to become a Rebbe/Ruv.
Good Luck…..if I find anything new, I will post it.
gotbeer: What is a Rebbishe Einekel doing online???
There are a couple of problems with this task. One problem is that some Chassidis’ just started out of the blue. The first Tosher Rebbe (my Great-Great-Great Grandfather) was born a non-Chassid and his town asked him to become a Rebbe/Ruv.
Tosh can be traced back to Komarno
@avhaben- What is a yid doing in line ?!?
*online
BaalHabooze: Is Satmar directly linked to the Baal Shem Tov or did it come later (like Tosh)?
I understand SOME of the other Rebbes seem to be in a direct line from odom hariehoin
Yechi: Odom who?
Anyway, I’m pretty sure I come from that line too. So I guess I’m also a Rebbe. 😉
So now – let’s take a poll. Who IS NOT a descendant of Adom Harishon? Which would of course mean you come from the apes! LOL.
Satmar traces back to the Yismach Moshe, who was a Talmid of the Tzanzer Rav.
All Chassidusen come from the Maggid. The Rebbe Reb Meilech was a Talmid of the Maggid. The Chozeh of Lublin was his Talmid. Most of today’s dynasties come from Talmidim of the Chozeh.
Among the Chozeh’s Talmidim are the Ropshitzer, the Peshis’cher, the Ziditchover (Kamarna, eventually Tosch), and the B’nei Yisas’char (Munkatch). From the Ropshitzer there is Tzanz (Bobov, Klozenberg, Satmar) and Belz, and from the Peshis’cher there is Kotzk (Ger) and Vorka (Amshinov). The first Vizhnitzer Rebbe was a grandson of Reb Yaakov Kappel, a Talmid of the Baal Shem Tov, and a son in law of the Rizhiner.
There are dynasties that start from Talmidei Hamaggid: The Baal Hatanya, Reb Aharon Hagadol of Karlin and his Talmid Reb Shlomo of Karlin (Stolin-Karlin, Slonim), Reb Aharon of Tchernobel (Skver, Rachmestrivke). From the Maggid’s son, Reb Avraham Hamalach, comes Rizhin (Bayan, Alechsander)
You can really check out Wikipedia for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_dynasty
Yechi: Odom who?
Anyway, I’m pretty sure I come from that line too. So I guess I’m also a Rebbe. 😉
So now – let’s take a poll. Who IS NOT a descendant of Adom Harishon? Which would of course mean you come from the apes! LOL.
Or from the Nephilim.
Here is a link to a tree I made recently. It’s based almost entirely on wikipedia, so expect at least some inaccuracy. Kol tuv!
https://docs.google.com/a/tabc.org/file/d/0B3moh-DeWvZjbkJfRjhadURFekk/edit
Save it to your computer, and then you should be able to make it bigger, since it’s a JPG image.
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