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February 28, 2012 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #854471bptParticipant
As far as “the back of the bus”, I would say that the woman who is willing to sit still for 4-5 hours of speeches, does not want to be front and center in a mixed venue. The mechitza is something they want.
February 28, 2012 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #854472cherrybimParticipant“The organizers dont make money from gas and tolls”
I’m just wondering about the total cost to the frum community for the event.
February 28, 2012 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #854473mddMemberCherrybim, you are so wrong! The Beis HaMikdash did have a mechitza — during Simchas Beis HaShoeva when many women came. That mechitza is the mekor for having a mechitza in shuls or at simchos (even if women do not dance).
February 28, 2012 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm #854474cherrybimParticipant“during Simchas Beis HaShoeva when many women came”
It was an elevation, a seperate area; not a mechitza.
February 28, 2012 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #854475gavra_at_workParticipantCherrybim, you are so wrong! The Beis HaMikdash did have a mechitza — during Simchas Beis HaShoeva when many women came. That mechitza is the mekor for having a mechitza in shuls or at simchos (even if women do not dance).
As I’ve said before, this is the Machlokes whether a mechitza is required in this day as well. It is a Machlokes Rishonim. Rashi in Succah and the Rambam in Yad hold there was no physical Mechitza, just a separation. Rambam in POerush Hamishna is Mashma there was a physical blockage.
Later day Poskim (such as the Satmer Rov, I believe) say that even though there was no mechitza in the Bais Hamikdash, we need it due to Niskatnu Hadoros.
February 28, 2012 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #854476cherrybimParticipantThis is why the great shuls had balconies for women rather than a machitza, so that the women could see as was the case in the bais hamikdash.
February 29, 2012 4:03 am at 4:03 am #854477thefinalhorcruxMemberI attended the last siyum hashas and pretty sure I remember some sort of screen/curtain being lowered from the ceiling intermittently as a mechitzah (possibly for when we said tehillim? Don’t remember exactly, but I was in the “upper section” in the women’s section. Still have my ticket even 🙂 )
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