October 25, 2009 3:58 am at 3:58 am #664126oomisParticipant
Taking anibiotics for a “simple” cold will not help. Viruses do not respond to antibiotics. If one has a condition requiring antibiotics, then by definition there is nothing “simple” about that cold. It is either a sinus, ear, throat or upper respiratory infection, and may require the intervention of an antibiotic. The problemis that many people take antibiotics incorrectly, do not follow instructions to the letter, eat or drink something that renders the antibiotic ineffective (such as grapefruit juice in many cases), or do not take ALL of the medication ebcause they strat to feel better. This sets them up for a relapse with an antibiotic-resistant strain of bacterial infection.October 25, 2009 4:10 am at 4:10 am #664127anon for thisParticipant
oomis, drinking grapefruit juice can interfere with absorption of certain medications, but not antibiotics. Sometimes alcohol can exacerbate the side effects of certain antibiotics though.October 25, 2009 5:17 am at 5:17 am #664128JaxMember
there are also many antibiotics that cause stomach issues as a side effect and the patient would also need to take something like Prilosec in order to calm the stomach!October 25, 2009 6:41 am at 6:41 am #664129
Prilosec isn’t for this. Try Yogurt or acidofilus caps or pills.October 25, 2009 7:11 am at 7:11 am #664130JaxMember
while on Bioxin once, it worked wonders for my shredded stomach!October 25, 2009 10:08 am at 10:08 am #664131
Grapefruit juice DOES interfere with antiobiotics, especially with some macrolides, via cytochrome P450.October 25, 2009 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #664132Be HappyParticipant
Mybat, I really hope your husband is feeling better and stopped coughing. If not, insist on full blood test and chest x ray. – My son had chronic cough and after months of antibiotics inhalers etc, blood tests with the help of an xray pinpointed what medicine he needed.
I think we have to be proactive where antibiotics are concerned. They are a marvellous drug in the right time. We don’t want to become immune to them.
We should all be Gezunt in shtark bezras Hashem.October 25, 2009 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #664133
It might work, but it shouldn’t be used for antibiotics. It’s not even a first line drug for GERD.October 25, 2009 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #664134oomisParticipant
Anon, my doc told me when on a certain antibiotic (Can’t remember which, sorry) not to drink grapefruit juice because it lowers the efficacy of the dose.October 25, 2009 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #664135tamazaballMember
Oomis does it apply to orange or other juices?October 26, 2009 12:31 am at 12:31 am #664136
It has nothing do do with citrus, rather 6′,7′-Dihydroxybergamottin, a compound in grapefruit, which inhibits cytochrome P450 in the liver, which is a family of proteins with extensive metabolism for many medications, that is involved. Therefore, since the usual metabolism of these compounds is inhibited, bioavailability is increased (they stay longer in the system), which can reach toxic levels, similar to overdosing.October 26, 2009 3:45 am at 3:45 am #664137anon for thisParticipant
oomis, health, sorry for the wrong information about antibiotics & thanks for the corrections. I’ve learned that grapefruit should be avoided when taking clarithromycin, erythromycin, and troleandomycin.October 26, 2009 4:03 am at 4:03 am #664138
isnt grape-fruit juice also to be avoided when on certain cholesterol medications? I was at someone’s house and they mentioned that the fruit salad had grapefruit in it for one of the other people at the table (who said they had to avoid it because of a medication taken to reduce heart issues-not sure what).
seems like with all these interactions, one needs to ask their doctor every time they get a new med to find out the purpose, reactions (normal and abnormal they might get), and any interactions that they should be aware of with their other medication/foods.
we are such a pill-popping generation it makes me wonder what they did in the past.October 26, 2009 4:08 am at 4:08 am #664139
since this is a health post on antibiotics, I had a question to post:
overdosing on purell and other antibacterial/anti viral instant hand cleansers- I have heard that they destroy good bacteria with the bad ones. Also that they could cause the bacteria to become immune to the cleansers and to multiply. Isnt a little dirt good for you? Of course if you are sick you should clean your hands to avoid others from getting any type of flu you might have. (Or if you are dealing with chemicals or disections in biology class- please clean your hands before preparing food!) dont you want your body to not get sick every time you come into contact with a bacteria? I have heard different things- whether purrel is good for you or bad. any ideas?October 26, 2009 4:26 am at 4:26 am #664140starwolfMember
Grapefruit juice contains a number of compounds. We do NOT fully understand the actions of some of these compounds. In addition to their effects on drug metabolism cited above, some of these compounds can affect other biological systems as well. For example, how much of a given drug enters the brain.
I urge anyone taking any drug whatsoever to take the time and read the label describing the interactions of that drug with others, and reading the contraindications. Then follow the instructions, they are not there for nothing. If you do not understand, don’t be embarrassed, get your doctor or a pharmacist to explain it to you. Don’t be shy, this is your health that we are discussing.
Again, for any visit to the doctor, bring a list of your medications and the dosages that you take. Do not rely on the doctor to have it on file or look it up. Especially in the cases in which you consult multiple specialists, a single doctor may not have the entire list on file.
So take responsibility for your own health!! The system is not going to do it for you.
In addition to keeping an updated list of your medications and dosages, do not fail to keep a similar list for your children, and especially, for your parents. Many of our elderly take a bewildering combination of meds, and have difficulty keeping track of everything. Their physicians are overworked and underpaid, and often do not get the complete story. It is our duty to make sure that our parents/grandparents receive quality medical treatment.October 26, 2009 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #664141
Sehe Wolffenstern, wir habben nicht gegessen die Traubenfrucht in der “heim”,……. therefore all the old world remedies worked fine, especially the non-existent ones. Bankes, leaches, cinnabar, spiked wine, and cod liver oil, for those who could afford it, enabled those people, who suurvived the childhood diseases, to live to ripe old age of 38, before succumbing to pneumonia. Better yet, they were already dressed in white.October 27, 2009 4:09 am at 4:09 am #664142
How in the world do you OD on Purell? These products are very effective more than soap and water, but they aren’t needed unless soap & water isn’t around or you have a lot of exposure to germs. Recently, they put these automatic Purells in hospitals and everyone was using them instead of water. What happened was an increase in C. difficile because it has spores, so they got rid of the bottles and told people to wash off the spores with soap & water. Unless you are worried about C. difficile Purell is very effective.October 27, 2009 4:56 am at 4:56 am #664143
I was told that using it too much gets rid of good germs and prevents you from having your own immunity become stronger.
what is C. Difficile by the way?October 27, 2009 6:19 am at 6:19 am #664144mazcaMember
coughs could be a psychological problem, I know somebody that had a cough, and after going from doctor to doctor they found out he was terrified of a disease in the throat, then he got cured.
All in the mind.October 27, 2009 9:04 am at 9:04 am #664145yankdownunderMember
Besides washing my hands with plenty of soap and water how do I reduce my need to swallow antibiotics and take medicaine to fight the flu? My question is how do we prevent all this and strenghten our immune systems. I would like to open the thread Natural or Conventional Medicine which works better to improve our immune systems to fight the common flu or cold.October 28, 2009 4:23 am at 4:23 am #664146
To havesome seichel,
And what’s wrong with getting rid of all the germs? Immunity doesn’t work the way you make it out, it isn’t simplistic. C. Diff causes Pseudomembranous colitis- usually an antibiotic-associated colitis. This is sometimes deadly. Why don’t you take out a book on immunity from the library so you would have an understanding before you start posting?October 28, 2009 10:59 am at 10:59 am #664147irMember
yankdownunder – try taking vitamin b complex to strengthen your metabolism, which in turn would help your immune system. If you are really interested in better general health, it usually starts from the digestive tract, in which case a good, strong acidophilus would be the place to start. I would be very interested in a thread on natural medicine.October 28, 2009 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #664148
Health- I do know something about immunity (was a bio student at one point in my life). Someone had told me that and I was confused, so I posted my question. I just wanted clarification to unconfuse me! that is why it was in question format, not as a statement!October 29, 2009 2:51 am at 2:51 am #664149
Washing with soap or using Purell isn’t really going to effect your immune system because we are exposed to germs all the time. The best time to clean your hands is before eating, after coming home from school, after the bathroom, before and after seeing patients. Did you ever wonder why the torah says to wash hands after the bathroom and before eating?
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