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    yentingyenta
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    does this include sewing/mending? and is knitting and crocheting in the same category as sewing?

    #837602
    ✡onegoal™
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    I would assume so, but I can’t back it up.

    #837603
    Sam2
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    This includes whatever your Minhag is for it to include. Some are Noheg like Shabbos, some like Chol Hamoed, and some not at all.

    #837604
    cherrybim
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    “while the candles are lit.”

    For the first half hour they burn during the zman.

    #837605
    old man
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    I respectfully request an explanation regarding not doing melachah as if it’s shabbos. Does this include borrer? Writing two letters? Making a cup of tea without kli shlishi? It makes no sense.

    #837606
    LeiderLeider…
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    Certainly no knitting, sewing, laundry, etc.

    This year I heard a chissush from a dayan, that perhaps cooking would also not be allowed. The premise is that the woman needs to do a “recognizable” abstention from work. So if a woman would generally putter around in the kitchen and cook, then she should refrain from doing so during this half-hour.

    First time I heard this. Thought I would share…Would appreciate feedback if anyone has heard this concept before.

    #837607
    Sam2
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    This is honestly one of the silliest things I hear and it upsets me every year. People see this in a Sefer and they start asking/researching what they are allowed to do and not. It’s a Minhag!! If it’s not your Minhag, then no research needs to be done. You just don’t avoid any Melachah because you were not one of the ones who was Noheg that way. It’s that simple. I get Shailos every year from girls/women asking what they’re allowed to do or not. The fact that you’re asking means that you weren’t Noheg it which means that you are allowed to do any Melachah.

    Old man: Yes, I have met two families who are Noheg to actually treat it like Shabbos, Melachos Ochel Nefesh included.

    #837608
    hello99
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    Sam2: “I get Shailos every year from girls/women asking what they’re allowed to do or not”

    Haven’t you mentioned in the past that you are a bochur?

    #837609
    Sam2
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    Hello: I have said that I am 23-years-old, I think (I consistently lie by 1-2 years on online forums; no one needs my exact age and an approximation works just as well). That has never stopped anyone from asking me Shailos.

    #837610
    2scents
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    Sam2, The Mishne Berura states that it is Assur for Women to do a Melacha.

    The Questions is, if it is the same as Rosh Chodesh or if it is unrelated.

    anyhow, the primary issur is for anything related to sewing.

    Other Melachas, there are those that say that it is not permitted, and

    that say that it is.

    #837611
    old man
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    I suggest that applying issurei melachah of shabbos to the half hour of chanukah licht is at best nonsense and at worst bal tosif. Or vice versa. Taking the word “melachah” and interpreting it by its most extreme meaning is off the charts extremism, and makes a chuchah u’telulah of the halachah.

    #837612
    Sam2
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    2scents: That’s just not true. The SH”A clearly says it’s a Minhag. If it’s not your Minhag, then it’s not your Minhag.

    #837613
    musser zoger
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    Sam2,I usually don’t argue with rabbanim who answer other people’s Shailos.But don’t we say “Minhag Yisroel Torah” and I don’t think it’s saying it’s a minhag and therfore optional…it’s saying its a minhag that should be practiced.

    #837614
    BHTWIA
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    I heard that the reason for this minhag is that one is not allowed to benefit from the chanuka licht. Not doing tasks during this time makes sure that one is not using the lights. If this is the case, one could argue, that this would apply to things that require light, but not to things that don’t require the use of ligh. One could also argue that, b’zman hazeh, when we have well-lit homes and there is no worry about using the lights inappropriately, then it would also not apply.

    Of course, there are other reasons brought down, such as the fact that a big part of the nes happened through a woman. So, in either case, go with the family minhag and/or ask a posek.

    #837615
    Sam2
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    Musser zoger: I’m no Rav. I’m just a kid who ended up in an awkward situation earlier in life and therefore still has to answer more Shailos than I ever should. By all means, feel free to disagree with me on anything. I wouldn’t answer a Shaila unless I’m pretty sure that I’m right, but I don’t have nearly enough Ga’ava (well, maybe I do-but I pretend that I don’t) to assume that anything I say is in any way binding.

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