Metzitzah b�peh question

First of all, many Goyim were circumcised as babies so many Geirim only get a Hatafah. And when an adult Ger has an actual bris, it’s almost always done in a hospital where I doubt they allow M’tzitzah B’peh. So the question is probably moot.

Ironically, the whole controversy about M’tzitza B’peh probably wouldn’t apply to an adult. The whole issue that those who are concerned about it has is that direct blood contact with a virus by a baby can be very dangerous to the still developing immune system. There is no such concern at all by an adult with a properly developed immune system (who was probably exposed to Herpes Symplex before anyway).

To answer your question, the man has just undergone an excruciatingly painful procedure. I’m sure there’s no Chashash of anything inappropriate at all.

Yes a ger does need metzitza b’peh who did not have a milah before.

Sam2: It wasn’t directly saying yes or no. But I now understand you to mean that, yes, MBP is done as part of the adult milah, but there is no chashash of there being anything inappropriate with it.

By the way, can an adult receiving a (full) bris milah for the first time, do so under anesthesia (with a mohel doing the bris after he is medically put under anesthesia)?

Englishman: Why not? I recall no Halachic reason that he can’t. I would presume that that is what is done nowadays.

RebRY: Good point. The medical circumcision sometimes does not do the Priah but I have heard that the clamps they use often accomplish the Priah anyway.

Goq: Herpes Symplex (the one that many are worried will cause harm if Metzitzah B’peh is done) is carried by something like 96% of the population. It’s not to be confused with the “famous” type of herpes. This type is relatively harmless and we all are exposed to it and have immune defenses against it. What those against M’tzitzah B’peh point out is that a baby with a still-developing immune system and direct fluid contact (saliva on an open wound) might be susceptible to it and it could cause a fever (or C”V worse), which can have terrible effects on the baby’s development to have a fever that young.

Anyone else read that yated article about this a couple weeks back?

Apparently, the more common way infants contract herpes is from family members. In one of the infamous cases, the baby’s older toddler brother had open herpes sores, and had sucked the baby’s pacifier and put it back in before anyone could stop him. The mother had tried to tell this to the investigators, but they were only interested in talking about milah.

You can confirm this by googling “infant herpes simplex” and see that it is normally spread to infants through casual skin to skin contact from a carrier who has an active lesion.

If what the mother in that case is claiming is true, it proves bloomberg and company have an agenda and we better toughen our stance. Also, can the newspapers be sued for defamation of religious practice (or something else) as I don’t remember reading “allegedly” contracted, just contacted through the ancient practice…